# Audeze LCD-4 over-ear planar magnetic Headphones - Official Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Official Headphone Model Discussion\ **Tags:** audeze\ **Created:** [April 27, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46 "2018-04-27T04:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gtjwolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/gtjwolf/32/18310_2.png) [@gtjwolf](https://forum.headphones.com/u/gtjwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 11:30pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/41 "2021-02-05T23:30:16Z")
Mine have been out for a repair for 3 weeks and I got a support update yesterday, the last batch of drivers they received needed to be remade but it sounds like they came in last week so progress is resuming. No idea on new stock though but they said my pair should at least be ready to ship back by next week. ---
**Author:** ![BenMurray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/benmurray/32/22340_2.png) [@BenMurray](https://forum.headphones.com/u/BenMurray)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/42 "2021-10-26T11:51:26Z")
@Resolve, did you ever try out the 2021 Audeze ear pads on the LCD-4? I think I heard you mention you were considering trying that. I’m curious if the new pads would improve the FR of the LCD-4 like they did on the 2021 LCD-X. ---
**Author:** ![Resolve](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/resolve/32/51647_2.png) [@Resolve](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Resolve)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/43 "2021-10-26T16:37:13Z")
It’s not quite as good as the LCD X 2021. Still needs EQ, but it’s a lot better than the memory foam versions. ---
**Author:** ![BenMurray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/benmurray/32/22340_2.png) [@BenMurray](https://forum.headphones.com/u/BenMurray)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/44 "2021-11-02T19:40:42Z")
Last week I stumbled on a like-new 2021 LCD-4 for a really good price, and now I’m going to be an LCD-4 owner in a few days (very excited!). I want to get a class A amp for it as soon as I can (guessing my Magni 3+ won’t cut it, haha), and I’ve been looking at the Burson Soloist 3X Performance. I was worried that it might not be able to do the 500+ mW at 200 ohms that Audeze recommends for the LCD-4, so I emailed Burson with this question. This is the response I got, for anyone else considering the Soloist 3X P for their LCD-4 (I also posted this on head-fi): I contacted Burson Audio and asked if the Soloist 3X Performance would be able to fully power the LCD-4. Ryan got back to me and told me that the output of the amp at 200 ohms is 1.9W in balanced and 950mW in SE (Audeze recommends 500+ mW for the LCD-4). I’m not sure why there’s a discrepancy in the listed specs for the amp, but this lines up with Sandu’s experience. In his [review](https://soundnews.net/amplifiers/headphone-amps/burson-soloist-3x-review/), Sandu wrote: “I don’t know exactly how Burson measured it at 8 Watts, because a friend of mine measured its output at 15 Watts and my first-hand experience tells me that Soloist 3X is a lot more powerful to its official specs.” I also asked Ryan about the new Soloist 3X GT, and he said the improvement in sound quality over the 3X Performance isn’t due to power output (though the GT is more powerful), but rather due to the aggressive/over-engineered power supply that makes the amp faster. In summary, I feel pretty confident that the Soloist 3X Performance has plenty of power for the LCD-4. I’m probably going to get the 3X P in the near future, then consider the GT down the line. ---
**Author:** ![rulerofrecords](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rulerofrecords/32/22680_2.png) [@rulerofrecords](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rulerofrecords)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/45 "2021-12-23T19:47:51Z")
I got a 2017 unit heading my way and was wondering if you or Chrono have posted your EQ settings somewhere here? cheers and Frohe Weihnachten 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BenMurray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/benmurray/32/22340_2.png) [@BenMurray](https://forum.headphones.com/u/BenMurray)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/46 "2021-12-24T13:34:24Z")
I’m not sure if you’ll find this helpful or not, but here’s how I EQ’d my 2021 LCD-4. My favorite FR I’ve heard so far is my LCD-X 2021 EQ’d with Resolve’s V2 profile. My goal was to create an EQ profile that would make my 4’s FR match that of my EQ’d X. I compared the FR graphs provided by Audeze for my LCD-X unit and my LCD-4 unit (see attached jpg). I believe Audeze’s FR graphs are compensated to some unknown target, so note that they’re only useful for direct comparisons with other units measured on the same rig and compensated to the same target. I started with Resolve’s LCD-X 2021 EQ filters in Equalizer APO and then added additional filters to correct for differences between the 4 and the X. A/B’ing between my 4 and X, I got the 4 to sound a lot closer to the X, and I was really happy with the EQ profile I ended up with. ![Screenshot_20211113-170440_Gallery](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/0/5/050072fc2dcd59413bd002cd35ab7975589e1e6f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rulerofrecords](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rulerofrecords/32/22680_2.png) [@rulerofrecords](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rulerofrecords)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/47 "2021-12-24T16:04:53Z")
Thanx for that Ben. Very creative approach. Good too know that the 4 can “mimic” many other headphones thanx to its friendly take to being equal. Question - for me to enter those changes into Roon-Eq - do you have the values you were using here? cheers and happy holidays Uli ---
**Author:** ![BenMurray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/benmurray/32/22340_2.png) [@BenMurray](https://forum.headphones.com/u/BenMurray)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/48 "2021-12-24T16:32:02Z")
Sure, here’s the screenshot of my filters in PEACE. It’s rather messy since I just added filters on top of Resolve’s LCD-X profile, but I liked the results. Note that there is some unit variation with the LCD-4, so you’ll want to compare your unit’s FR graph with mine to get an idea of how well my EQ might work for your headphones. ![Screenshot of PEACE EQ settings for LCD-4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/c/b/cbd4f0d1d474f7195bd2e96f6de5822b61df1f3e.png) ---
**Author:** ![rulerofrecords](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rulerofrecords/32/22680_2.png) [@rulerofrecords](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rulerofrecords)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/49 "2021-12-24T17:02:31Z")
Cool! Something to prepare before the headphone hopefully makes it here on monday. Exciting times! Thanx again ---
**Author:** ![Essentials](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/essentials/32/28942_2.png) [@Essentials](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Essentials)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/50 "2021-12-28T20:10:38Z")
> [@rulerofrecords](#): > > Something to prepare before the headphone hopefully makes it here on monday I would suggest you prepare your neck and head ---
**Author:** ![arftech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/arftech/32/10214_2.png) [@arftech](https://forum.headphones.com/u/arftech)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/51 "2021-12-29T03:30:15Z")
It’s a great sounding headphone and TBH I don’t have a problem with it’s weight but then again I don’t wear mine 7 hours a day. These are the type of HPs that allows you to relax and enjoy your music in your favorite listening chair. Happy listening! ---
**Author:** ![rulerofrecords](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rulerofrecords/32/22680_2.png) [@rulerofrecords](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rulerofrecords)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/52 "2021-12-29T07:33:47Z")
I really thought the 4 IS the neck training?! It is here now and for the last two days it kept stunning me. I must change around with my other cans so I get never ever used to the sound! ![IMG_7273](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/a/6/a664115cd8d43e1de5b934eae83c9bf4a9abe2f4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rulerofrecords](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rulerofrecords/32/22680_2.png) [@rulerofrecords](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rulerofrecords)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/53 "2021-12-29T07:38:04Z")
I was actually very scared of a lot of things here. First - can my amps drive it properly? To my relief the answer is YES! Both amps have enough umpff and headroom to make them sing. 1st box checked … ---
**Author:** ![Den-Fi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/den-fi/32/32927_2.png) [@Den-Fi](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Den-Fi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/54 "2022-02-16T16:42:00Z")
![20220216-2L1A3532-Edit](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/e/e/ee39f83980a73419dd09a0dfbe88e2dfbd32d2d9.jpeg) While I enjoy my [LCD-5](https://den-fi.com/audeze-lcd-5-unboxing/) a lot, it’s so different from the LCD-4 that I find myself still using them regularly. ---
**Author:** ![deafenears](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/deafenears/32/11409_2.png) [@deafenears](https://forum.headphones.com/u/deafenears)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/55 "2022-06-09T05:26:38Z")
Measurements of a set of LCD-4 by Andrew: ![Audeze LCD-4 2021 Pads](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/f/4/f492c8e814ea2ac544c3fc987974e4d919be4cbf.jpeg) And as quoted: > One caveat here is that this is not a unit from 2021, but rather an older unit with the 2021 pads applied. It might be worth noting that, as Audeze has changed other things on the LCD-X for the 2021 revision beyond just the pads, and I have no idea if anything else would be different on the LCD-4. ---
**Author:** ![NT37](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e274bd/32.png) [@NT37](https://forum.headphones.com/u/NT37)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/56 "2023-08-16T05:32:05Z")
@Resolve This might be a long shot, but do you have an EQ profile for the LCD-4? ---
**Author:** ![Resolve](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/resolve/32/51647_2.png) [@Resolve](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Resolve)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/57 "2023-08-16T14:38:07Z")
No, it’s so difficult to tell given how many revisions there have been over the years, and/or unit variation. So a profile probably isn’t the best bet for that one. Rather, I’d recommend trying to do what you can by ear. ---
**Author:** ![EminentOne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/eminentone/32/64833_2.png) [@EminentOne](https://forum.headphones.com/u/EminentOne)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/59 "2026-05-09T17:31:32Z")
hailo this likely for any headpiece and system many conflate these attributes down to frequency response with tonal balance as differentiator of good while unsuspecting effect of noise masking leading to illusory success ---
**Author:** ![Fred981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Fred981](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Fred981)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/60 "2026-09-17T18:35:26Z")
Hi @Resolve. Which headphone would you consider a modern equivalent of an LCD-4 with same technical driver, resolution, punch and tactile bass? I damn want a LCD-4, but unfortunately trying to not buy something used. EQ and measuring it’s no problem for me. Have the right equipment. Thanks so much in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Resolve](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/resolve/32/51647_2.png) [@Resolve](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Resolve)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46/61 "2026-09-17T19:57:00Z")
I’m not sure I’m the right person to answer this. It’s hard for me to know what you mean by ‘technical driver’, since what most people mean subjectively by this isn’t actually to do with drive capabilities. If you’re looking for punch and tactile bass, consider the AR9000. What equipment do you use for measuring? [Previous page](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.headphones.com/t/audeze-lcd-4-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-official-thread/46.md?page=4)