Classical Music Discussion

I have the Ozawa/BSO Berlioz on a Pentatone SACD; sounds fabulous in multichannel, and an exciting performance as well.

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So good.

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My latest Beethoven Sonata find , the sound is rather different , apparently a Steinway B rather than the more normal D (sounds knowledgable but isnā€™t)

Even includes the Kurfursten Sonatas WoO.47.

On Tidal ā€¦

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Looking for good Finlandia recommendations. Listening right now to one from the Helsinki Philharmonic w/ Leif Segerstam.

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Segerstam is meant to be one of the best, if not the best, although I havenā€™t heard it yet.

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My first time listening to him, mostly because heā€™sā€¦ Finnish :slight_smile:

Karajan / Berlin is good as well, as a DG recording w/ Peer Gynt.

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I have plans to throw myself into a big Sibelius performance comparison later this year, so I can only talk theoretically right now. Your post about going to a Mahler concert a while ago caused me to listen to over a hundred Mahler recordings to figure out my favorites, and it looks like youā€™re going to do that to me with Sibelius too LOL. But Iā€™m in the middle of a Beethoven symphony battle right now, so maybe after that.

Going back to Sibelius, the conductors who seem to get mentioned the most are Segerstam/Helsinki, Vanska/Lahti (which most critics prefer to his later Sibelius with Minnesota) and Neeme Jarvi/Gothenburg (again, critics prefer his recordings for BIS, not the later ones for DG). The only Sibelius cycle I own right now is by Blomstedt/San Francisco, another critically acclaimed cycle, but I donā€™t think they recorded Finlandia.

I bought the Blomstedt Sibelius because I loved his Nielsen cycle so much. Nielsen and those Blomstedt/San Fran performances are very special to me because it was the first time I broke away from listening to Mozart and Beethoven, and Nielsen might be my next performance comparison exercise before I get to Sibelius.

BTW, I hope you listened to some Nielsen when you were in Denmark recently.

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Thatā€™s probably the only one of the more regarded Sib cycles I havent listen to yet. His one with Minnesota is just over mastered/produced - you will know what I mean if you listen to it.

Blomstedt and Segerstam are probably the two best cycles IMO. Bernie has a decent one and Berglund isnt bad either.

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Please Elucidate. Is it a performance battle? Or pitting the symphonies against each other? I can hear the color commentary in my head now.

Itā€™s the bottom of the 3rd. First and Second Violins are on base. The Tympani winds up, fires ā€¦ .
Weā€™re in the middle of the 7th. The conductor walks up to the woodwinds and has a talk. The whistle blows and the crowd can have a stretch.
The top of the 9th. The chorus is queued up. The conductor swings, he misses. he swings again!!!

Yes. :grinning:

Smaller & faster orchestras vs older, slower but more powerful orchestras.
Speed vs melody
Period instruments vs modern

Itā€™s making my head spin!

Itā€™s not practical to compare fast and slow orchestras because thereā€™s a risk that if Iā€™m enjoying the first performance, the second will sound too fast or too slow in comparison. So Iā€™m dividing them up and comparing all the performances that are about the same speed.

Some of the older guys (Gunter Wand/NDR Sinfonieorchester and Paul Kletzki/Czech Philharmonic) have already emerged as victors, and are sipping coctails while the youngsters battle it out for the remaining spots.

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Thanks for all the ideas. Lots to Qobuz in the coming days.
Haha, I did not listen to Nielsenā€¦ I would have loved to attend the Danish National Orchestra but alas the timing did not work out.

For Finlandia, I do have to specifically recommend: Berlin/Karajan DG Oct 1993: Grieg Peer Gynt, Holberg, Finlandia.

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ā€œI have the CD of the William Steinberg and Boston Symphony Orchestraā€™s version of The Planets (on DG) and I canā€™t bear it, notwithstanding having tried it several times over the years.ā€

This is the first I have ever heard someone say some thing negative about this work. To me and many that I know, THIS Planets is the GREATEST ever.

Of course, I have not heard them all. I currently own 4 (Steinburg, Ozawa, Karajan & Tomita) but have heard several others too. Maybe I should start streaming as many different versions as I can just to see how the Boston compares.

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For me, being mainly into symphonies, Mahler sits at the top, along with Shostakovich, Bruckner and Beethoven.

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https://open.qobuz.com/track/291039293

This is older than ā€œClassicalā€, but just sounds wonderful on the ZMF Auteur Classic, modi multibit, and EufĆ³nica OTL. Iā€™ve been really enjoying early instruments and 17th to 18th century pops recently.

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Working today despite the markets being closed. Catching up on details of data entry for projecting clientsā€™ financial goals.

And Zoning out on Apple Classical, the ZMF Auteur, and Eufonika OTL amp, Schiit Modi Multibit. Very nice.

And this new release is gorgeous:

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