# Geshelli J2 vs Modi+ vs. Modi Multibit 1 vs. Bifrost OR how DACs made me rethink sound perception **URL:** \ **Category:** Amplifiers\ **Created:** [February 13, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/geshelli-j2-vs-modi-vs-modi-multibit-1-vs-bifrost-or-how-dacs-made-me-rethink-sound-perception/20424 "2023-02-13T02:30:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![pennstac](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/pennstac/32/381_2.png) [@pennstac](https://forum.headphones.com/u/pennstac)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/geshelli-j2-vs-modi-vs-modi-multibit-1-vs-bifrost-or-how-dacs-made-me-rethink-sound-perception/20424/2 "2023-02-13T03:41:49Z")
> [@ericrosenfield](#): > > Near as I can figure this is what happened: the extra treble presentation on the J2 just made me more aware of the reverb added to some degree in most music recordings, and once I was aware of it it was all I could hear in any recording. Like my brain had switched on a “hear the reverb” button. > [@ericrosenfield](#): > > In any case, I hope though I’ve emphasized how subjective I think this all is. I think people don’t talk enough about how whatever you’re used to or are listening “for” can effect what you hear, I really appreciate the long ramble. I fully appreciate the amount of introspection needed. In many ways, you can’t unhear just like you can’t unsee. This is, I think, an inherently human characteristic, and it’s not only audio. Back it 2018 I posted [this on fonts and typography](https://forum.headphones.com/t/what-are-you-upgrading/1546/178), which makes the same point. I didn’t have audio references for what I was trying to say. You also repeat that “endgame is a myth” but perhaps end-budget is not so much a myth. It’s funny, looking back how I went through a phase where a Headroom Airhead and Sennheiser HD-580s were very satisfying. My reference headphones, the old STAX, were not being used so much due to some changes in how I had my stereo system set up, and I liked the freedom of a CD Walkman type arrangement with the Airhead (powered by 3 AAA batteries) and the Senn. I always tried to go to enough live music that I appreciated the difference between a live performance and a recording. Maybe that’s what kept me happy - knowing that all audio was just a compromise, and being OK with the compromise as I had it. Again, thank you. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.headphones.com/t/geshelli-j2-vs-modi-vs-modi-multibit-1-vs-bifrost-or-how-dacs-made-me-rethink-sound-perception/20424)._