# Isolation Products

**URL:** <https://forum.headphones.com/t/isolation-products/20351>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous\
**Created:** [February 4, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/isolation-products/20351 "2023-02-04T23:24:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![andris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/andris/32/41391_2.png) [@andris](https://forum.headphones.com/u/andris)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/isolation-products/20351/2 "2023-02-05T00:23:48Z")

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Thanks for starting this thread, @Lou_Ford!

I’ll kick things off with what I’ve found effective (often wishing I didn’t):

- **Isoacoustics Zazen I Isolation Stand** - I got [this](https://isoacoustics.com/home-audio-isolation-products/zazen-series/) just for kicks to put under my Dave to see if I’d notice a difference. Welp. I did. Was it world changing? No. But there was just a bit more smoothness and ease of flow to the music - and a slightly blacker background. Having had this experience, I moved on to the rest of my components…
- **Isoacoustics pucks -** I have them under everything, except the DAVE. Specifically, the Orea graphites for small stuff (server, scaler, DDC), and [Orea](https://isoacoustics.com/home-audio-isolation-products/orea-series/) Indigo for bigger stuff (tube amp and PowerPlant). Same improvements as for the DAVE, but just more. Smoother, easier flow to the music, and a blacker background.
- **Sorbothane Isolation Disks -** These are a no-brainer, given the price. I bought four to place under my entire rack from [IsolateIt](https://www.isolateit.com/collections/discs-rings/products/sorbothane-vibration-isolation-circular-pad-discs?variant=37396493795489). Result? You guessed it - just a bit more of the above, which shouldn’t be a shocker. If I could go back again, I’d probably start here, actually and slowly get pucks for everything else over time. At least this starts by decoupling your entire rack (to a degree, of course) from the rest of the world. I live in NYC, where there are subways, traffic, other residents, and tons of other stuff to shake things imperceptibly.
- **Tube Dampers -** I was so ready for [these](https://herbiesaudiolab.com/collections/tube-dampers) to be snake oil. They just stink of it, right? But, I try to keep an open mind, and these weren’t too expensive to just try “just in case”. Well, you can’t have them. They’re staying. I think I would actually rank these over the other isolation products in the list. The music out of my tube amp was noticeably more focused and it cleaned up a bit of reverb (that I didn’t know was there). However, an interesting experience I had was that, specifically for my power tubes (2A3’s), having one damper actually added some noise - maybe it was picking up some vibration and was the right pressure to actually resonate with it - but adding a second damper to the single tube resulted in dead silence (so 2 dampers less noise than no dampers, less noise than 1 damper). I’m sure this is very case-by-case, but just thought I’d throw it out there in case anyone else runs into this.

Jury still out:

- **Cable Lifters -** I haven’t done any careful A/B listening here, and I also have only one power cable in my headphone rack that uses it. I do have cable lifters for my 2 channel setup, but again, I haven’t really done on/off critical listening, and my 2 channel system isn’t _nearly_ as resolving as my headphone setup. To be clear, for the products in the prior section, I didn’t need careful A/B-ing. The improvements was obvious enough. Not so for cable lifters. I figure, worst case they’re keeping my nice cables off the floor. Best case, they marginally improve the sound. These are definitely not a big deal in either system, though.

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