# Matrix Audio Element:X - DAC/Amp/Streamer - Official Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** DACs and Digital\ **Tags:** high-end, dac-amp, matrix, streamer\ **Created:** [August 29, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755 "2019-08-29T22:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MokhaMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@MokhaMark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MokhaMark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/61 "2020-10-29T15:22:04Z")
Never mind @Torq, I just found your sailing away thread and see you are traveling. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![bigshel99](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/bigshel99/32/5807_2.png) [@bigshel99](https://forum.headphones.com/u/bigshel99)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/62 "2020-10-29T16:35:32Z")
not Torq but how about a tube amp? The Feliks Echo works well with both the Element X and VC; it’s on the warm side so if you want neutral probably would need to look at their other amps or other brands. If it’s bass dynamics you’re looking for, from a SS perspective the iFi pro-iCAN gives that to the VC. You’ll lose a little of the detail that the Element can bring but gain a lot of punch. Those are just ones I can speak on from my experience. ---
**Author:** ![MokhaMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@MokhaMark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MokhaMark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/63 "2020-10-29T19:06:40Z")
> [@bigshel99](#): > > iFi pro-iCAN Hi Again bigshel99. Thanks for the suggestions. I will research both. If I am just adding onto the Element X I need to shop for value as I have nearly maxed what I can spend on this hobby. I guess I am just looking for something to bring out a more visceral side to the VCs. It is perfect for acoustic, solo piano, small ensemble jazz. But I also listen to music where I just want a bit more punch in the face. Maybe I should be thinking of a second set of headphones rather than a different amp? I don’t know. Thanks again, I will look into these. The Feliks in particular looks like a good value. ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/64 "2020-10-29T22:42:53Z")
It hasn’t been overly popular as of late, but I think that’s because it’s just been around for so long… Mjolnir 2. King of slam. If there is any amp that has a visceral nature and engaging sound to it, that’s the MJ2. I found my personal preference was with some good Philips Miniwatt SQ, or Amprex / Seimens A frames. I loved mine, and only moved on from it when I got my Eddie Current Black Widow 2 (which is nearly unobtainable nowadays). You will definitely want a balanced 4 pin XLR headphone cable. I have been seriously considering getting another one to pair with my Meze Empyrean. It depends on how the 3F does, which I hope to get back in my stack soon. ---
**Author:** ![MrCypruz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mrcypruz/32/2617_2.png) [@MrCypruz](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MrCypruz)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/65 "2020-10-30T01:35:51Z")
> [@MokhaMark](#): > > Maybe I should be thinking of a second set of headphones rather than a different amp? I don’t know. If you go this route, get the Focal Stellia - it will punch you in the face and will do that with outstanding clarity! The main reason for this recommendation is it’s efficiency which makes them super duper easy to drive with almost any source, the Element X would make them sing with ease. The downside is that they reveal the noise floor and get loud real quick with medium to high power headphone amps. ---
**Author:** ![MokhaMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@MokhaMark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MokhaMark)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/66 "2020-10-30T14:12:09Z")
@MrCypruz and @ProfFalkin Thank you both for the suggestions. I was just yesterday looking at the MJ2 and wondering…hmmm. It is nice because it is balanced on both ends so I would not need new cables or an adapter, and I could run it as a pre-amp straight into my amps also and that might add some tube goodness to my Class D. And its under $1K. There is also a WooAudio WA6 on eBay but I think the MJ2 might have more power. The Focal Stellia sounds interesting also. However, those would come at the expense of my VC because I cannot have two $3K headphones! But I appreciate the advice. I’ve grown attached to my VCs for acoustic music and not sure I can ever let go of them. Thanks again, I really enjoy the civilized and generous nature of this forum! ---
**Author:** ![MRHifiReviews](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mrhifireviews/32/13974_2.png) [@MRHifiReviews](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MRHifiReviews)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/67 "2021-02-27T03:22:10Z")
Just incase anyone was wondering about sound differences between these two I am going live tomorrow 2/27/2021 at 1pm PST hope to see you there!!! [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/7/2/72bac1fb0d031da200d36441ca780cc2a8e88a1b.jpeg "Chord TT2 vs Matrix Element X DAC Amplifier Comparison Live Stream") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvKFTx076o) ---
**Author:** ![tmarshl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/tmarshl/32/13119_2.png) [@tmarshl](https://forum.headphones.com/u/tmarshl)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/68 "2021-04-02T18:43:16Z")
Recently acquired the Matrix Audio Element X. When I first tried it (single ended) my response was “meh”. It sounded good… but not great. That all changed when I used XLR balanced output and applied a bit of EQ. Now it does sound great! ---
**Author:** ![tmarshl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/tmarshl/32/13119_2.png) [@tmarshl](https://forum.headphones.com/u/tmarshl)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/69 "2021-04-02T18:53:47Z")
> [@MokhaMark](#): > > I am unsure that the headphone amp in the Matrix is up to the task of the VC. It sounds clean, pure, warm. I hear all of what I think I should but the impact seems underwhelming. It sounds polite, but I find I am listening up between -20 and -10 db and by the time I get the bass where it is moving me, the rest is too loud. I do not have enough experience with other amps or headphones to know if I am getting the most out of the VC. I had the same experience with the Matrix Audio Element X and my ZMP Verite Closed. But when I changed from single ended connection to balanced XLR, and applied a bit of EQ via Roon, what a difference! Now it sounds terrific! ---
**Author:** ![MokhaMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@MokhaMark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MokhaMark)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/70 "2021-04-02T21:01:37Z")
Glad you found a solution and EQ worked. And yes, as I remember, the Matrix balanced had more umph. I ended up selling my Element X and getting a tube amp, but I remain a big fan of the Matrix Audio and miss a lot about it. ---
**Author:** ![dbstechtalk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dbstechtalk/32/4047_2.png) [@dbstechtalk](https://forum.headphones.com/u/dbstechtalk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/71 "2021-10-14T22:19:41Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/5/3/53d5f2f24ebcc5ee9b63603e3cebd52ec8a3ea13.jpeg "Honest Audiophile Impressions of the Matrix Element X Streamer DAC/Amp") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7aVN8vGLCU) ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/72 "2021-11-06T17:58:17Z")
@MRHifiReviews dropped a nice vid about the Matrix streamers. I didn’t see a link for it here, so thought I’d share. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/3X/b/1/b17eeeb3d35ba6b56ecc09a5b0d1a167b307a3b8.jpeg "Matrix Audio Element X vs Element M vs Mini i Pro 3; the best Roon Ready Streamers?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65ynt3hWibI) ---
**Author:** ![MRHifiReviews](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mrhifireviews/32/13974_2.png) [@MRHifiReviews](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MRHifiReviews)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/73 "2021-11-09T15:19:17Z")
Thanks for sharing @ProfFalkin appreciate you! ---
**Author:** ![Grover](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/grover/32/29710_2.png) [@Grover](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Grover)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/74 "2021-11-09T16:40:25Z")
Any compariosns between this and the X-Sabre? ---
**Author:** ![tmarshl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/tmarshl/32/13119_2.png) [@tmarshl](https://forum.headphones.com/u/tmarshl)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/75 "2024-02-02T18:37:10Z")
Have been using the all-in-one Matrix Element X for several years now, which is a long run for a device in my setup. I have found it to be a reliable source for Roon (Qobuz + Tidal) playback. I primarily drive Focal Utopia headphones in balanced mode with a Transparent Ultra headphone cable. Although I am constantly looking at new gear, this one is a keeper for me. It does everything quite well, and I love the all-in-one solution. ---
**Author:** ![Torq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/torq/32/16384_2.png) [@Torq](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Torq)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755/76 "2024-02-02T19:15:28Z")
Audibly? No perceptible difference. X-Sabre measures _slightly_ better than Element-X of the same generation (but well below theoretically audible differences). BOTH the newer generation X-Sabre and Element-X lose out, measurements wise, to their earlier versions. The headphone output on the Element-X2 is just ODD … [Previous page](https://forum.headphones.com/t/matrix-audio-element-x-dac-amp-streamer-official-thread/3755.md?page=3)