# One Box

**URL:** <https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448>\
**Category:** I need advice!\
**Created:** [March 18, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448 "2021-03-18T13:15:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dajokr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dajokr/32/6575_2.png) [@dajokr](https://forum.headphones.com/u/dajokr)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/1 "2021-03-18T13:15:20Z")

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Is there something like a consensus here on what the best ‘one box’ solution is for a headphone DAC/amp with streamer (preferably wireless and Roon-tested/ready)?

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**Author:** ![monochromios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/monochromios/32/20221_2.png) [@monochromios](https://forum.headphones.com/u/monochromios)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:35pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/2 "2021-03-18T13:35:32Z")

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For me it’s hard to pick a one box. Everyone has its mixed bag. I know @mfadio’s using a Matrix and he’s enjoying it. I’ve considered for a short time getting a Mytek Brooklyn Bridge but I’m a vinyl kinda guy and I ended up investing more money in the analog chain.

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**Author:** ![bobmysterious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/bobmysterious/32/25173_2.png) [@bobmysterious](https://forum.headphones.com/u/bobmysterious)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/3 "2021-03-18T13:44:01Z")

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If you wanna go all out there’s the dCS Bartok…

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**Author:** ![mfadio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mfadio/32/32019_2.png) [@mfadio](https://forum.headphones.com/u/mfadio)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/4 "2021-03-18T14:13:03Z")

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Lots of things to consider here: do you have a budget that could help us out?

It would also help to know HOW it will be hooked up, wireless, usb to a computer, ethernet.

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**Author:** ![tmarshl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/tmarshl/32/13119_2.png) [@tmarshl](https://forum.headphones.com/u/tmarshl)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/5 "2021-03-18T14:18:20Z")

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> [@bobmysterious](#):
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> If you wanna go all out there’s the dCS Bartok

Due to its price, the dCS Bartók with headphone amplifier is not something most people just go out and buy. For me, it was the culmination of many many upgrades over the years, and downsizing from a full size speaker system to a TOTL headphone system.

Was it worth it? I would say absolutely.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/6 "2021-03-18T14:40:58Z")

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I’m not aware of any consensus. There also is the Naim Uniti Atom.

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**Author:** ![bobmysterious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/bobmysterious/32/25173_2.png) [@bobmysterious](https://forum.headphones.com/u/bobmysterious)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/7 "2021-03-18T15:46:03Z")

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I agree, just wanted to throw it out there so OP was aware. It’s not really a jump right in type of option. However, OP may have the resources to consider something like that. I also couldn’t think of any others off the top of my head 😂

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**Author:** ![Roark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/roark/32/9724_2.png) [@Roark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Roark)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/8 "2021-03-18T16:17:53Z")

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As others have stated, there are options available. The problem is the solution can vary in price as evident from the dCS suggestion.

So to respond to your question, it depends……

Desired outcome and how much you are willing to pay for it, especially for the Roon Ready feature. At the minimum your current phone could be a one box solution, or your computer, or tablet. Heck even your tv could be used with Roon if it has Chromecast or Airplay.

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**Author:** ![generic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/generic/32/61169_2.png) [@generic](https://forum.headphones.com/u/generic)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/9 "2021-03-18T16:35:08Z")

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> [@Roark](#):
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> your current phone

Yeah, a phone, tablet, or DAP would suit the needs of some.

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**Author:** ![dajokr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dajokr/32/6575_2.png) [@dajokr](https://forum.headphones.com/u/dajokr)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/10 "2021-03-18T17:25:48Z")

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Thanks all. The Bartok is not currently in my range. 🤣

I was looking at numerous headphone DAC/amps and wondering why there weren’t more that added a wireless and/or network streamer module to be more of an all-in-one. In my use case, I would use it as a wireless endpoint in a room other than my main listening room. I can certainly plug in my Node 2i to a normal DAC/amp combo, but was looking for an elegant/attractive one box option.

Thanks for the input!

Edit: Phone w/portable DAC and/or DAP is how I currently do this.

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**Author:** ![mfadio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mfadio/32/32019_2.png) [@mfadio](https://forum.headphones.com/u/mfadio)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/11 "2021-03-18T17:35:04Z")

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A few options:

The Matrix Mini-I pro 3 will do this, but is best with higher impedance headphones.

Chord Hugo2+2go, or Mojo+Poly should take care of you.

Pecan Pi Streamer Ultra checks all the boxes too.

Obviously you can use a headphone out of a Blusound node, Marantz NA6006. Cambridge CXN, NAD integrated, Naim Uniti, etc.

I am also an avowed all in one fan, If Hegel can make a world class stereo integrated amplifier, with preamp and DAC, why can’t we get the same with a decent headphone stage?

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**Author:** ![callmevil](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/callmevil/32/16451_2.png) [@callmevil](https://forum.headphones.com/u/callmevil)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/12 "2021-03-19T08:20:37Z")

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One box… well that would sacrifice a bit of quality but the only true one box solution I can think of is probably a computer but… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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**Author:** ![MokhaMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@MokhaMark](https://forum.headphones.com/u/MokhaMark)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/13 "2021-03-20T00:46:28Z")

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FYI, a member @DVass13 is selling a Matrix Element X. I owned one and can attest to its quality.

> [@SOLD - Matrix Audio Element X](https://forum.headphones.com/t/fs-matrix-audio-element-x/11464):
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> SOLD Up for sale is a Matrix Audio Element X in very good condition. I purchased this unit from an authorized dealer in September 2019 and received it in October. I used it to drive my Focal Utopia headphones and as a preamp for my 2 channel power amp. This is a great all-in-one unit that really is a one box solution. Connecting a hard drive to the back and using the MA Remote makes accessing your library a breeze. It also mates perfectly with Roon - allowing you to control everything from the …

The headphone amp is typically viewed as the weak link, and for certain types of cans, it is, but it is pretty powerful and as quiet an amp as I’ve heard. High impedance stuff will sound better on tubes for sure, but most other stuff is really great with this device.

Not sure of your budget, but this is a stellar all in one in my experience and if I had not been bitten by the tube mosquito, I’d still own it.

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**Author:** ![griff500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@griff500](https://forum.headphones.com/u/griff500)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/14 "2021-03-20T10:51:37Z")

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Auralic Vega is pretty good.

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**Author:** ![monochromios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/monochromios/32/20221_2.png) [@monochromios](https://forum.headphones.com/u/monochromios)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/15 "2021-05-12T08:49:59Z")

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Naim Uniti Atom is coming in a new dedicated headphone edition.

> **[Naim announces Uniti Atom Headphone Edition | Darko.Audio](https://darko.audio/2021/05/naim-announces-uniti-atom-headphone-edition/)**
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> Also a streaming pre-amplifier for active loudspeakers or a power amplifier.

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**Author:** ![Torq](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/torq/32/16384_2.png) [@Torq](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Torq)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/16 "2021-05-12T11:50:27Z")

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I was all excited (I am an old-school Naim fan) … until I read the specs.

Needs.

More.

Powah!

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**Author:** ![monochromios](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/monochromios/32/20221_2.png) [@monochromios](https://forum.headphones.com/u/monochromios)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/17 "2021-05-12T13:18:09Z")

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Same here.  
It’s a wonderful “headphone edition” that isn’t actually an headphone edition.

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**Author:** ![Header](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dfb087/32.png) [@Header](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Header)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/18 "2021-05-25T14:12:45Z")

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Hello…how about Nad M33 or Naim Uniti Atom Headphone Edition?

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**Author:** ![awaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@awaz](https://forum.headphones.com/u/awaz)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/19 "2021-05-25T21:26:28Z")

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Anyone have experience with the Nad M33? If so, what do you think about its sound quality?

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**Author:** ![Wroughtsteel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Wroughtsteel](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Wroughtsteel)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/one-box/11448/20 "2021-06-04T12:19:08Z")

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Has anyone tried the Uniti Atom Headphone Edition? Even to audition? I’ve already seen one used for sale.
