# Schitt Modius **URL:** \ **Category:** Headphone News\ **Created:** [June 2, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851 "2020-06-02T19:01:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/1 "2020-06-02T19:01:31Z")
Looks interesting. [https://www.schiit.com/products/modius](https://www.schiit.com/products/modius) ---
**Author:** ![eric75](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@eric75](https://forum.headphones.com/u/eric75)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/2 "2020-06-02T19:10:32Z")
Looking forward to some reviews with comparisons to the Modi 3. I have a secondary setup in the house with a Modi 3 and Vali 2, and would definitely consider a move to a Mobius/Jotunheim, if it proved worthwhile sonically. I like what they did having separate output paths for SE and Balanced. I know this is a me thing, but man I wish Schiit would build their products up instead of out to the sides. What I mean is make it taller but not as wide. So my ideal would be a Mobius that was the same width as a Modi, but taller. Really would like taller/narrower profiles for the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo. I have lots of height space but limited width space. Again, totally a me thing. ---
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/3 "2020-06-02T19:29:49Z")
Yea man I feel ya lol. They are like long boats ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/4 "2020-06-02T19:30:27Z")
So, it’s a Modi with Unison and SE + balanced outputs. For $200. Wow! This fills a niche in their line up, but the price difference between it and the Bifrost 2 is pretty big if you wanted to go with multibit. Not complaining, just saying. You do get a remote and phase correction on the BF2 though, which kind of helps. Since it is running the AK4493, I’d be interested what sonic differences it presents vs the AK4490 Modi. ---
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/5 "2020-06-02T19:48:44Z")
I would think a $350-450 version of this with multibit would be sweet as well. ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/6 "2020-06-02T20:34:02Z")
More items in the Bifrost 2’s favor: 5 year warranty, user performable firmware updates, and modular upgrades. Modius isn’t upgradable. Yeah, I can see why they didn’t do multibit on the Modius. It would just be a half baked Bifrost 2 for not that much less. ---
**Author:** ![antdroid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/antdroid/32/8600_2.png) [@antdroid](https://forum.headphones.com/u/antdroid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/7 "2020-06-02T21:05:29Z")
seems like they did it to have a matching dac for the asgard 3. ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/8 "2020-06-02T21:30:57Z")
Asgard is SE though. Why not just do SE only if that were the case? I’m thinking it’s more for getting Unison to the Lyr 3 / Jotunheim / Asgard. We could both be right. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![antdroid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/antdroid/32/8600_2.png) [@antdroid](https://forum.headphones.com/u/antdroid)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/9 "2020-06-02T21:37:10Z")
That’s true. I was mostly looking at the price point. The BF2 is in the price realm of the Lyr/Jot and the Modius is same price as Asgard. ---
**Author:** ![ProfFalkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/proffalkin/32/1399_2.png) [@ProfFalkin](https://forum.headphones.com/u/ProfFalkin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/10 "2020-06-02T21:38:06Z")
True. I bet that stack would sound pretty darn good! ---
**Author:** ![generic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/generic/32/61169_2.png) [@generic](https://forum.headphones.com/u/generic)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/11 "2020-06-02T21:44:59Z")
Given @Torq’s comments regarding the 4490 vs. 4493 in the RME ADI-2fs, I don’t think it’ll sound much different than the Modi. I do see it as intended to combat balanced products from external competitors such as Drop,Topping, and SMSL. ---
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/12 "2020-06-02T22:32:36Z")
Yea I think it’s meant to compliment the lyr, Asgard, or JoT. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Makua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/mr_makua/32/12768_2.png) [@Mr\_Makua](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Mr_Makua)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/13 "2020-06-02T22:45:54Z")
Keeping my eye on this one since an Asgard 3 is in my near future. I like the idea of a super-sized Schiit stack, but I’m not in a position to look at the BF2 quite yet. Curious to hear what people think once they get their hands on them. ---
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/14 "2020-06-02T23:18:57Z")
They should market their stacks as tissue ply lol. ---
**Author:** ![frkasper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/frkasper/32/9408_2.png) [@frkasper](https://forum.headphones.com/u/frkasper)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/15 "2020-06-03T00:11:18Z")
Good news. If we notice – ordered by price: | DAC | MRSP | Output (type) | | --- | --- | --- | | Modi | $100 | SE only (∆Σ) | | Modius | $200 | Balanced/SE (∆Σ) | | Modi Multibit | $250 | SE only (Legacy MB) | | Modius Multibit | $350 | 💡 I’m positive they’re working on this one (Legacy MB) | | Bifrost 2 | $700 | Balanced/SE (“True Multibit”) | | Gungnir | $900 | Balanced/SE (∆Σ) | | Gungnir Multibit | $1300 | Balanced/SE (“True Multibit”) | | Yggdrasil | $2500 | Balanced/SE (“True Multibit”) | It’s a hell of a line up. DACs for all tastes. I miss a power button in the new Modius though. Looks like a big form factor for a 5V micro USB. The heck of it. Work-around is simple: hand my smaller stack to my brother and buy brand new. 😄 Very good office combo, I’d say. Modius/ASG3 or Modius/JOT… Not the LYR and VAL2 though. 🔥 hazard. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![splayname](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/splayname/32/37615_2.png) [@splayname](https://forum.headphones.com/u/splayname)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/16 "2020-06-03T01:53:23Z")
The Norse gods will not be happy with this. ---
**Author:** ![generic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/generic/32/61169_2.png) [@generic](https://forum.headphones.com/u/generic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/17 "2020-06-03T12:57:21Z")
> [@splayname](#): > > will not be happy with this. Another reason for shock: The Modius just received [a very positive review](https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/schiit-modius-balanced-dac-review.13769/) with top tier performance at the measurement-site-that-shall-not-be-named. [Audio Science Review] ---
**Author:** ![Nathanware](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/nathanware/32/12577_2.png) [@Nathanware](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Nathanware)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/18 "2020-06-06T16:32:22Z")
I immediately noticed the Modius’s distortion measurements: - THD+N: 0.0003% - IMD: 0.0006%, CCIR Compared to the Bifrost 2’s: - THD: \<0.003% - IMD: \<0.004%, CCIR Looks like Schiit is really trying to make their gear measure well to appease the measurements-focused crowd. I wonder if maybe they’ve sold more Magni Heresys than Magni 3+s and decided that products sell better if they measure well 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Snareblast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/snareblast/32/11756_2.png) [@Snareblast](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Snareblast)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/19 "2020-06-06T21:02:35Z")
Ha. As soon as the modius came out I had my eye on the used market for a bifrost 2. Low and behold one pops up lol. ---
**Author:** ![generic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/generic/32/61169_2.png) [@generic](https://forum.headphones.com/u/generic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851/20 "2020-06-08T13:40:14Z")
> [@Nathanware](#): > > Looks like Schiit is really trying to make their gear measure well to appease the measurements-focused crowd. Yes, people now have far greater access to measurements than in the past. Without retail stores/demos it’s otherwise tough to decide between a 100 similar products. It’s not realistic to think that small boutique vendors will always make the right design decisions – measurements provide a hint before one throws down the $$$. > [@Nathanware](#): > > I wonder if maybe they’ve sold more Magni Heresys than Magni 3+s and decided that products sell better if they measure well 🤔 Products that measure well tend to have a predictable tone and delivery profile. They will be clear, clean, detailed, and “clinical” or “analytical” relative to products that do not measure well. If one seeks such a profile then it’s reasonable to rule products in or out based on measurements alone. Tube-based products tend to measure less well, but they also have a predictable tone profile based on the characteristics of tubes and this can usually be tweaked through swapping the brand/model of tubes. Solid-state products that don’t measure well (such as the old Magni 3 or most anything from Audio GD) might benefit the most from first-hand testing to determine whether one likes their specific deviations from the clean profile or not. [Next page](https://forum.headphones.com/t/schitt-modius/6851.md?page=2)