Sennheiser HDB 630 Wireless Headphones - Official Discussion Thread

You’re most welcome. Fwiw, Sound Guys also has a review and measurements of this headphone. And their 5128 plot looks more laid back in the treble and upper mids than Resolve’s graph above, which would change my assessment of the overall FR. I’m not sure if the measurements were done in the same mode though.

If I use both sets of measurements as the gauge, then the mids and treble look a bit more neutral overall. Sub-bass is still a bit elevated, as with the previous “smile”. And there are some brighter areas around 1.3k and 4.5k. And 8-8.5k still looks slightly dark.

Again, this is just a rough guess based on both the SG and Resolve graphs, which may not be equivalent. And as a general rule, I tend to trust Resolve’s plots more than SG.

There is uncertain ground truth with many measurements.

See “measurement error”.

Test with your ears…

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Yes… there is always absolute error, which if not included in the analysis, should be questioned. However, there is also relative error, which is why most reviewers compare the device in question with other well understood devices… for example, the M4 and HD 600/650 headphones…

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Resolve, your response is helpful. I have never had much of a sense of spaciousness with any of my headphones (AKG K702, HD-600, Clear OG), but I actually do experience that with AirBuds Pro 2 on certain (stereo) material, as I also do with my carefully set-up speaker system.

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Yeah I noticed their measurements looked a bit odd by comparison, usually things align for us a bit better though this could just be a unit to unit thing. We checked ours against Sennheiser’s marketing data and it looks to line up with that quite well so we’re fairly confident in ours at least.

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Thank you for the tip on the Sennheiser plot. I’ll have a look at that as well, and see where it lands. Per some of your remarks in the review, I wonder if the ANC makes the measurements more difficult, or prone to variances.

Were any of your samples closer to the SG result though?

Seperate gain controls, or a simple left-right stereo balance adjustment might be sufficient to fix most of the channel imbalance on your graph. Maybe the HDB 630 app has somethin simple like that, if it doesn’t include separate EQ’s for each channel.

This is always a good idea imo.

Had a look at the Sennheiser measurement here. And it’s a little different than both your and the SG measurement in some ways. It’s closer to the SG graph imo, particularly in the treble, but with a bit more energy around 2k and slightly less sub-bass.

I don’t know if we’re comparing apples to apples though on all of these. And others may see things a bit differently.

Red is their marketing measurement. I’d say that’s actually reasonably close. I didn’t check SG against this, so maybe my eyeballing of it was down to their target methodology. With regards to how they perform relative to official material, in my experience, it’s not uncommon for production units to be even more different from what you see in marketing material. So it’s good to see this is mostly similar to the sound profile they claim.

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Thanks for posting the above, Resolve. It definitely helps to see what’s goin on better.

I want to buy a headset that will be primarily used for gaming and movies (sometimes music).
I already have iem (sa6), but I hate the cable, even when being plugged in a joypad. I also have a desktop setup (mojo2+aune s17pro+he6sev2), but this is in a different room and I hate moving it.

So these seem like a decent choice, but I did not like Maxwell at all (they were heavy and sound was so closed in), so I’ve sold them after a few months. I hate closed headphones in general, never liked any that I’ve tried.

So, from a purely sound quality, are these better than ft1/Maxwell and comparable to HD 6xx?

I haven’t heard the HDB 630, but all of the closed-backs that I’ve heard have that “closed-in” sound. It’s the nature of the design and would be hard to get beyond without making some questionable adjustments to the frequency response; even then, you’d be making other sacrifices that may not fix that boxy sound. If you dislike the closed-in sound, I’d recommend open-backs.

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That’s quite the generalization, especially when this forum thread is about a Bluetooth headset…

And how ‘bout this generalization… if you want to hear controlled and accurate sub-bass, I suggest a closed-back…

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Not sure what you’re getting at. I was responding to shinbojan, who was asking very specific questions.

My apologies — my interface to this forum doesn’t make it very clear as to whom you’re responding. Still, it’s quite the generalization considering you have no experience with the headphones in question…

Two things:

  1. I made it clear that I haven’t heard the 630 in the first sentence of my post.

  2. I stated the results of my personal experience based on the many closed-back headphones I’ve owned, auditioned or currently own, in that all of them have a closed-in sound. It’s how I heard things, and it’s the nature of the design, so what exactly am I making generalizations about?

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I’m just passing by, but closed headphones sound relatively (bad and) boxed in whether they cost $50, $500, or $5,000. It’s the nature of the technology and physics.

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I am also just passing by and say that I too have not heard the 630, but own some Senn Momentum 4’s. While @generic is essentially correct, the electronic gimmickry in the 4’s give it a less closed and more forced open into another dimension sound than most closed backs.

My guess is that similar canoodling has been done to the 630, making them possibly less objectionable, particularly if you are a cyborg.

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My I ask please - were the measurements taken with ANC on or off?

ANC on, I believe this is also an always active headphone, so there’s no passive mode.