# Small DAC recommendation **URL:** \ **Category:** Amplifiers\ **Created:** [April 20, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191 "2020-04-20T22:33:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Simonfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Simonfish](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Simonfish)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/1 "2020-04-20T22:33:07Z")
I’m working at home full-time now and will be for a while. My desktop workspace isn’t huge and my work monitor is vast so I’ve had to move my Benchmark DAC-1 down to the basement, and bring my SDAC into service. It’s decent, but it’s not quite as satisfying as the Benchmark. Any recommendations for a physically small, not-too-expensive DAC? ---
**Author:** ![frkasper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/frkasper/32/9408_2.png) [@frkasper](https://forum.headphones.com/u/frkasper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/2 "2020-04-21T00:45:21Z")
> [@Simonfish](#): > > Any recommendations for a physically small, not-too-expensive DAC? What is your budget? ---
**Author:** ![Simonfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Simonfish](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Simonfish)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/3 "2020-04-21T00:49:47Z")
A couple of hundred USD, more or less. I’m open to shopping for something used, too, which gets me a bit more bang for my buck. I could also sell off some amps (LCX, CTH) I’m not using and buy a nice all-in-one unit, like a Jotunheim. I just don’t want too big a stack of gear on my desk. ---
**Author:** ![frkasper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/frkasper/32/9408_2.png) [@frkasper](https://forum.headphones.com/u/frkasper)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/4 "2020-04-21T01:48:29Z")
On the small footprint I can only think of Schiit stuff – e.g.: Modi (3 or Multibit). But I can’t answer on how much quality you’ll get over your SDAC. Of course there’s the new Bifrost 2 hype, but that’s a bigger gear. If you’re open to DAC/Amp combos, then there are way more options. But in this case you’ll probably have to share the power requirements for your cans. Anyway, those were my 2 cents. I’m sure the community will have a load of more options. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![rrwwss52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/rrwwss52/32/945_2.png) [@rrwwss52](https://forum.headphones.com/u/rrwwss52)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/5 "2020-04-21T02:35:00Z")
Schiit is the direction I would look… ---
**Author:** ![BuffaloWing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/buffalowing/32/34683_2.png) [@BuffaloWing](https://forum.headphones.com/u/BuffaloWing)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/6 "2020-04-21T02:43:08Z")
Topping D50S is _tiny_. Size of a drinks coaster, inch thick, heavy, remote. Decent value there for what it is, isn’t going to compete with the higher end shit obviously, but for price and size. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Davis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/andrew_davis/32/9327_2.png) [@Andrew\_Davis](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Andrew_Davis)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/7 "2020-04-21T02:58:30Z")
The D50S was going to be my recommendation. Clean, small and measures well if that’s your thing. ---
**Author:** ![DEXCOM7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dexcom7/32/15171_2.png) [@DEXCOM7](https://forum.headphones.com/u/DEXCOM7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/8 "2020-04-21T04:01:53Z")
ifi nano idsd black label. ---
**Author:** ![jb77](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/jb77/32/6168_2.png) [@jb77](https://forum.headphones.com/u/jb77)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 5:38am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/9 "2020-04-21T05:38:49Z")
I would look into a Chord Mojo, as you can use it in line out mode for desktop use, it’s tiny and it’s a portable Dac/Amp combo that you could take with you, when the current craziness subsideds. > **[Chord Mojo DAC & Headphone Amplifier](https://www.headphones.com/products/chord-mojo-dac-headphone-amplifier)** > > The Chord Mojo at this point needs no introduction. The Mojo is the world’s most advanced portable digital to analogue converter DAC/Headphone amplifier. Now available on Headphones.com with 365-Day Returns, free shipping and legendary customer... I would check with @taronlissimore to ask if they have any open box units as that would put this in your price range. I really enjoy mine and it will give you a ‘taste’ of the Chord ‘sound’. I use this adapter to go to my amp. [https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/index.htm](https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/index.htm) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/2X/e/e970b14ff76fcf7434e48ad84a0925037a53d460.jpeg) Also I use this adapter for the USB input as I already had a nice USB cable to use. Or you could use an optical cable instead. Audioquest - USB B to Micro Adaptor [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M0H4J6C/ref=cm\_sw\_r\_cp\_tai\_buONEbJ54S71S](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M0H4J6C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_buONEbJ54S71S?tag=headphoneforum-20) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/headphones/original/2X/f/fe142711f77b5cf09bbefdd617890f5d2d95c86a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DEXCOM7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dexcom7/32/15171_2.png) [@DEXCOM7](https://forum.headphones.com/u/DEXCOM7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/10 "2020-04-21T12:49:44Z")
Curiosity strikes me… I own a Mojo my self and I love it… But I have read in some other parts that unlike other small form factor/portable DAC/AMPS the Mojo does not cycle the battery when plugged in all the time for desktop use, people have gone as far as taking the battery out to preserve it. Hence why I didn’t recommend for desktop use. Some say is true, some say is not… I rather not risk it? The iFi devices cycle the battery while plugged in to make sure the battery does not damage. TBH I think this apply s to most devices with a battery on it, I own the Chord Mojo, the iFi nano and a Micro iDSD. The micro iDSD is 100% of the time on and attached to my main desktop and the nano has been put away and replaced with the mojo. Food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![bigshel99](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/bigshel99/32/5807_2.png) [@bigshel99](https://forum.headphones.com/u/bigshel99)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/11 "2020-04-21T15:48:13Z")
iFi ZenDAC if you like a Burr Brown DAC. I’ve grown to like the little guy and it’s priced in a good spot for the features. ---
**Author:** ![Simonfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Simonfish](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Simonfish)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/12 "2020-04-21T17:56:04Z")
> I would look into a Chord [Mojo](https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-ultimate-Headphone-Amplifier-Coaxial/dp/B016W1X94O/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=headphoneforum-20), as you can use it in line out mode for desktop use, it’s tiny and it’s a portable Dac/Amp combo that you could take with you, when the current craziness subsideds. I’ve generally tried to avoid buying devices with batteries when I don’t need portability. I looked at the Mojo a few years ago, but decided against it simply because I didn’t want to have to maintain yet another battery. > If you’re open to DAC/Amp combos, then there are way more options. But in this case you’ll probably have to share the power requirements for your cans. I’m using Elegias right now (hopefully Stellias in the not-to-distant future 🤞) and it just occurred to me that I could just use my Benchmark since it has a not-terrible headphone amp built in. If only it had a balanced output. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![DEXCOM7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dexcom7/32/15171_2.png) [@DEXCOM7](https://forum.headphones.com/u/DEXCOM7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/13 "2020-04-21T18:16:56Z")
Yea, I am with you, Than maybe the Topping E30 is what you want or D50. I cant attest to their stuff… I dont use Topping at all ---
**Author:** ![Hoyt\_Maulden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/hoyt_maulden/32/4976_2.png) [@Hoyt\_Maulden](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Hoyt_Maulden)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/14 "2020-04-21T19:24:59Z")
In order of size: - AudioQuest Dragonfly – Black, Red, Cobalt – whichever you can afford – $100, $200, $300 - Schiit – Magni 3 + Modi 3 = $200 total or $350 total for Modi Multibit DAC These pair well with Sennheiser HD600s, still the best bang for the buck @ $300 ---
**Author:** ![DEXCOM7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dexcom7/32/15171_2.png) [@DEXCOM7](https://forum.headphones.com/u/DEXCOM7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/15 "2020-04-21T20:32:52Z")
Thats a very good list of recommendations! @Simonfish check out [https://www.headphones.com/collections/portable-amps-dacs](https://www.headphones.com/collections/portable-amps-dacs) You cant go wrong with [headphones.com](http://headphones.com) as their staff and support is outstanding. ---
**Author:** ![dbstechtalk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/dbstechtalk/32/4047_2.png) [@dbstechtalk](https://forum.headphones.com/u/dbstechtalk)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/16 "2020-04-22T01:48:09Z")
Geshelli Labs Enog 2 Pro is a small dac with rca and xlr output, very small footprint. ---
**Author:** ![deafenears](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/deafenears/32/11409_2.png) [@deafenears](https://forum.headphones.com/u/deafenears)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/17 "2020-04-22T11:18:53Z")
> [@Simonfish](#): > > If only it had a balanced output. Sigh. Can I ask why you’d need or want balanced output? The Elegia’s aren’t power hungry so single ended should do. Another option is to use your phone and get one of those dongle DACs? ---
**Author:** ![Simonfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Simonfish](https://forum.headphones.com/u/Simonfish)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/18 "2020-04-22T18:55:18Z")
> [@deafenears](#): > > > [@Simonfish](#): > > > > If only it had a balanced output. Sigh. > > Can I ask why you’d need or want balanced output? The Elegia’s aren’t power hungry so single ended should do. At the first Seattle get-together I attended, I tried my Elegias with a balanced cable and was truly amazed at how much better they sounded. Lower noise? I don’t know. All I know is that they sound a lot better to my ears. I’ve switched back and forth several times just to be sure, and every time, I prefer the sound of the balanced cable. > [@deafenears](#): > > Another option is to use your phone and get one of those dongle DACs? I have a Dragonfly Red which I use with my phone. It’s pretty nice, and I actually have it plugged in to my work computer for when I feel like using IEMs rather than over-ear headphones. But I prefer being able to turn my phone over when I work so I’m not distracted by notifications, and I also prefer the Tidal and Spotify UI on my desktop vs on my phone. I think I’m just going to call my current setup good for now - it doesn’t sound like I’m going to get any significant gains without spending significant amounts of money, which I suppose was the whole point of the SDAC. Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone! - S ---
**Author:** ![tjg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/tjg/32/39628_2.png) [@tjg](https://forum.headphones.com/u/tjg)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/19 "2020-04-24T22:27:04Z")
@DEXCOM7 What are your thoughts comparing your micro iDSD BL to your Mojo? ---
**Author:** ![taronlissimore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.headphones.com/taronlissimore/32/59_2.png) [@taronlissimore](https://forum.headphones.com/u/taronlissimore)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191/20 "2020-04-24T23:05:36Z")
I don’t know if anyone has suggested it yet but the iFi Audio Hip DAC is a great option with the Elegia. @Resolve actually wrote about it in his work from home article [here](https://www.headphones.com/blogs/news/headphone-work-setups). It does have the option of balanced 4.4 if you were looking for the balanced option. The bass boost is also a nice touch with the Elegia because it adds a little oomph to the low-end when you’re feeling frisky. [Next page](https://forum.headphones.com/t/small-dac-recommendation/6191.md?page=2)