For anyone who seem intimidated by tweaking all of these EQ parameters, but are still interested in testing it out, I would suggest to start with adding a simple bass shelf at ~100hz (increase to taste), and a 3-5db addition to 7khz. I personally feel like these two changes will get the LCD-5 90% of the way to what I consider perfect.
Ha! So you’re the one that jacked my order!
Think it’s really interesting that they went for a dark tuning given planars, in any price range, tend to be bright leaning above 5kHz. Very excited to hear one at CanJam NYC, as I’m treble sensitive.
Quick impressions based on memory of last Thursday’s listening.
- They are very lightweight. I went to pull them out of the box and almost threw them across the room as I had just lifted the LCD-4 out of their box to A/B with (might be a slight exaggeration but man they are much lighter than I expected).
- Comfort is pretty good. The pads are comfortable and I didn’t have any hotspots with the headband. I did notice some clamp force but Resolve mentioned that the clamp force seemed to have lessened over the weekend so if it’s good for his melon head it should be good for mine too .
- Cable is what you would expect if you are familiar with the LCD-4 cable. Nicer material and seems to have better build but only time will tell once wear and tear sets in.
- Sound: First impressions was that it reminded me of the Hifiman Susvara. Detail on the LCD-5 is absolutely insane. I always found the LCD-4 to resolve very well and the LCD-5 is on another level. I would put it above the Utopia for this quality.
Tonally, it’s actually quite different than the LCD-4 and I found the presentation to be more balanced overall. For those worried about bass, I wouldn’t worry. While I don’t think it hits as hard as the LCD-4, the quality of bass from the LCD-5 is outstanding.
Once Resolve is done stealing our gear I’ll be able to get some more headtime with the LCD-5 for more thorough impressions but I think a lot of people (including Audeze) can breathe a sigh of relief that the LCD-5 and I would rate it at my favourite release of 2021 so far (with the iFi Audio GO Blu coming after that).
I concur with Taron’s thoughts. Particularly around @Resolve slithering off with our only pair. I did get to spend some time with the Susvara and LCD-5 back to back off the Ferum Oor. Not enough time for conclusions but my initial impression is that the LCD-5 held its own which is saying a lot.
Just updated my EQ profile a bit. Here’s the new one:
And for those who watched the recent live stream we did, here’s the @metal571 approach (I was mostly joking, but… try it and see haha):
When your EQ graph starts looking like the FR of other headphones…
Oh god, which other headphones? Hopefully not raw graphs hahaha
Just in general, that first EQ graph.
Hows the Susvara comparison coming along?
Oh, yeah the LCD-5 is fairly mid-forward, hence those two elevations. I find myself saying this in a number of places already but like, even relative to the HD 650, the LCD-5 has fairly dark treble. So if you think the HD 650 is warmer than neutral, you’ll want a treble boost of some kind. But if you think it’s brighter than neutral - which I have yet to meet anyone who thinks that - then it would be fine. When it comes to the balance between fundamental and harmonic, however, the ear gain region is definitely a bit too pronounced there in relation to the rest of the treble, meaning that those tones around 3khz come across more strongly than their resonant harmonics.
Of course… the other way to look at this is to say “neutrality be damned, darker treble presentation for the win”, and then you’d want to reduce 3khz a bit and go with the Metal571 approach to EQ haha.
With that said… spending time with the LCD-5 so far has made me glance around at my possessions to see what I can sell to be able to maybe afford one haha. This thing is nuts.
Is it enjoyable?
And with that bass shelf you’ve added, how does its bass compare to something like the D8000, which I feel is how you should do bass.
Yeah it’s so enjoyable with either EQ applied. LCD-5 bass is less about slam and more about detail, but it still has great tactility and grip to it. Truly outstanding bass.
How is the impact and punch? If D8000 impact is very good, 1266 is sublime, and DCA Aeon Noire is like being slapped across the face by a toy trout made from Aerogel, where does the LCD5 with EQ lay?
Closer to D8K Pro than the rest.
Currently rocking Susvara with a 5db bass shelf, up where it should be. Isn’t too bad, no 1266 though.
Is that Ferrum OOR as cool as it seemed at the show? I was thinking that and the LCD-5 would be a great pairing…
You have to keep in mind, the 1266 gets it’s hard hitting bass partially from an air gap, and partially from having super thick and deep pads. The susvara bass can hit really hard with an air gap as well. All these features have cost.
Not quite to the same degree, given that it doesn’t have the same level for Fs, nor the same narrow Q - but theoretically yeah it would also boost.
Exactly what I did after Can Jam! lol
Yeah I know. But its still a reference point for bass impact and feel.