Getting used to it - the benefits of owning multiple headphones

They whistle and whine and make my ears ring within seconds when fed noisy or complex treble. My test tracks include orchestral (violin; flute) and heavy metal (randomized noise).

It needs to be parametric EQ, but it can be done. Though you’ll have to afford me a dongle of some kind, since I don’t have a Macbook or an iPhone. Those sources are just too expensive for me.

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I wonder if the ones you’re referring to had IMD problems. There was a time when that was more common at least.

This includes my experience with AKM 4490s and 4493s, and very recent testing. Cheap Cirrus Logic are probably the worst (worse than bad ESS).

Either one of you can do it.

Has nothing to do with money. You guys claim it can be done and it’s beneficial. So do it. Make a video on it. Listener can do it. He already has the tools and the EQ profile. Call it “Proving the haters wrong” or something. You won’t tho…

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But it wouldn’t prove anything unless someone else heard it. Someone who is an EQ doubter like you. That’s the video we should do.

I’m not in the fictional YouTube business.

but seriously, I don’t have to. There’s people out there who own a DT1990 or HD800 and they’ll love this EQ off a phone or Mac. They’ll benefit greatly.

And….you just left the realm of objective testing and entered phenomenology. Welcome to perception science. This is where all the real value is to be found.

Which is why I’m imploring you guys to be open minded towards tone-gen based EQ.

The opposite. It’s only interesting if it’s verifiable by third parties, otherwise we’re at the mercy of our own biases. Obviously I know I can do this for myself but that’s not the point.

Or, you can buy a Verum 2 that doesn’t need EQ to sound balanced and natural. Swapping between the two pads supplied provides all the EQ you would likely need. The Sennheiser HD 490 and HD 650 come pretty close to not needing EQ, but can sound better when carefully applied.

Did you think before writing? Let me in on your “God’s eye” view of the universe, for no one in the history of humanity has ever been there.

Each one of us first experiences our own personal senses. Call them biases, but they are all we’ve got. This is the start of “interesting.”

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Your audience will let you know if it’s successful. Make the video with the EQ profiles.

hey another video should be about picking 3 headphones and make them sound like you want. A dynamic, a planar, and a closed back. EQ them to sound good or like something else.

make the video…

So you’re telling me you want to watch a video where I EQ an HD 800 S or DT1990 off a macbook, and tell you that I was able to fix it? Where’s the proof in that?

I can tell you already that I’ve done it with worse headphones and worse sources.

We did one recently with the HD 800 S. Though again, no Macbook on my end since I don’t have one.

But as to making two headphones sound identical to one another, that’s a much greater challenge. Doable, but not easy.

Really what I’m proposing here is to have you guys try it out for yourself. That’s why I’m asking if you guys have either of those headphones handy. Or, try it out with what you’ve got using a tool like Owliophile.

As always, this is a process, and it takes time to do it right. But if you’re willing to put in the effort, the juice is genuinely worth the squeeze.

No way can one make a 38mm driver in the Sennheiser HD 600 series sound like a 105mm planar driver, especially in the bass. The 38mm driver will distort at a moderate volume compared to the planar.

That was @Rhodey. I personally don’t watch any of your content ever, and I unsubscribed from The Headphone Show.

My point was that perception precedes analytical models. We all start out as ignorant infants and then kind of sort of make sense of the world. This is the sequence for obtaining knowledge.

It depends at what volume levels you’re trying to play it at, but at typical listening levels, it could be done.

You talk about EQ all the time and don’t “have proof”.

Make the video and let your audience decide. Again, you guys won’t do it.

and with that I’m out! :victory_hand:

:musical_notes::musical_note:Bye-bye all my headphone guys,

Took my cans to the EQ, but the EQ ran dry.

Them good ol’ forum boys were boosting mids, asking why…

Singin’ this’ll be the day the headphone forum died.

This will be the day it died!!!:musical_note::musical_notes:

Respectfully disagree. The distortion would be audible, as well as measurable. Play Saint-Saans Symphony #3 with the HD 600/650 and EQ, and listen to what happens when the organ kicks in vs. the Verum 2 or the E3.

This is some head-in-the-sand stuff.

There are literally decades of proof as to the course-grained benefits of EQ. I’m saying it can go further than that if you try to do what I suggested above. And yeah I’m open to making a video about this, but it would have to actually demonstrate it to someone. We’ll need a willing participant who is part of the anti-EQ gang. Maybe something we can do at a future canjam.

Nope, no head in the sand. You actually believe it, so do it. You can’t tell me you haven’t made worse videos. Make the video. You and Listener should stand on your principles.

You won’t make it tho…

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