Meze Astru Impressions - I expect this to be controversial

Today we’re talking about the Meze Astru, a single dynamic-driver IEM that comes in at $899. But rather than making this just another review, I want to use the Astru to demonstrate something far more important: why people hear IEMs so differently from one another.

I’ve covered this before, but during a recent members-only livestream where I was evaluating the Astru, I used the individual HRTFs we got from our trip to London—mine and Griffin’s, specifically—to show just how dramatically two people can perceive the same IEM. Whether the Astru is “for you” or not, this is information people need to see.

Disclaimers

This unit was provided by Meze for evaluation. They haven’t asked me to say anything, and they certainly haven’t paid me to say anything. All thoughts are my own.

Design & Build

The Astru is Meze’s latest single dynamic-driver IEM. It’s beautifully understated—small, comfortable, and visually reserved in a way most high-end IEMs are not. None of the gaudy, over-designed excess you often see in this bracket. Just clean, classy industrial design with a normal color and unobtrusive look.

The wishbone-style Y-split is unique, the cable feels good in hand, and everything is ergonomically sound. No complaints here.

Generally everyone liked the industrial design of the Alba, and the Astru seems to take what worked there and just elevates it with better materials. No complaints here.

Why IEMs Are So Personal

We’ve spent a lot of time understanding how our heads and ears shape sound—and now we can meaningfully apply that to IEMs.

When you insert an IEM, the pinna (outer ear) is bypassed. The outer ear that normally contributes key resonances and filtering simply doesn’t contribute, but importantly, your brain still expects the contributions of this filtering. That means the IEM tuner has to approximate what the average listener's brain expects to hear, and this is why when evaluating IEM measurements, we use an HRTF that approximates average human outer ear effects—JM-1 Diffuse Field, which is based on ISO 11904-1's human HRTF average. 

This is one crucial reason IEMs are inherently personal, but its also not the only reason. Another important reason is that people's ear canals are different sizes, and the difference in canal length has effects on the actual sound the IEM itself produces—larger overall canals will propagate bass a little less effectively, and longer ear canals will shift the pattern of resonances in the treble lower in frequency. A different ear canal will also affect the overall HRTF the listener expects, so in general, when it comes to sources of variation for IEMs, there's a lot that has to be taken into consideration...

...and that's why it's not exactly easy to say "This IEM is good" or "This IEM is bad" with any real confidence that this is how it will sound to any given person other than me.

For measurements, we use the B&K 5128, whose 4620 ear simulators are part of the system—not a separate rig. This gives us a consistent baseline, but that baseline still reflects a population average, not you, and not me.

Thankfully though, due to our trip to London, we can now literally visualize how each of us hears an IEM.

How the Meze Astru Measures

When the Astru is measured on the 5128 and compensated with the JM-1 Diffuse Field baseline—representing how the average person is likely to hear it—I’d describe it as mildly W-shaped: Elevated bass, a forward region around 1–1.5 kHz, and a slightly quirky treble with some fatiguing hotspots.

For the average person, this sound profile will likely have something fun for those seeking detail, dynamics, and texture, but it does so while also introducing colorations—especially in the treble—that may skew timbre.

How I Hear It

If we substitute my HRTF into the baseline, we get the version of the Astru that I actually hear.

And it’s… rough.

The Astru becomes distinctly W-shaped, with fatiguing low/mid-treble peaks and a comparatively dark mid/upper treble, creating a sense of harshness, incoherence, and a "compressed" sounding imbalance. Cymbals sound crunchy and harsh, and most percussion loses any claim it has to natural timbre. I do not enjoy its treble at all, and it really ruins how this IEM would otherwise sound for me.

How Griffin and Cameron Hear It

Griffin’s HRTF yields a different picture: More forgiving low/mid treble, because Griffin's HRTF is basically identical to the JM-1 Diffuse Field in the lower treble, but the sound also becomes extremely elevated in the upper treble. While Griffin hasn't yet heard this IEM, I can be almost certain that his typical complaints about spicy upper treble would be present with this IEM.

Cameron’s HRTF yet again produces a unique response—with about the same level of lower-treble glare that I get, but with even less upper treble to balance this elevation out.

This goes a meaningful distance to confirming a consistent truth:

No two people are going to hear the Astru the same way, and its likely that people will have valid reasons not to enjoy the sound profile here.

With this system, I can now predict with reasonably high confidence how others on the team will perceive an IEM—even before they listen to it.

So… Is the Astru Good?

For me, the Astru has too many out-of-bounds regions—especially in the treble—to be enjoyable long-term.

Yes, it hits hard. Yes, it’s textured and dynamic. But it’s also quirky, colored, and fatiguing in ways that make cymbals and percussion sound wrong.

But—and this is crucial—that’s my experience, not an actual, objective characterization of the product itself.

Your own anatomy may bring those regions back into line. Or it may not. And this is why you really do have to hear things before you buy them.

Thankfully, Headphones.com offers a 365-day return policy, which is exactly the kind of safety net you want for a product category this variable. If you understand the sources of variation we're outlining here, you know you'll want to try an IEM before committing to it fully. Headphones.com's return policy allows you to do this without worrying too much.

So if you value the work we do, or want to try an IEM or headphone before committing the full spend on it, consider checking out Headphones.com next time you’re shopping for headphones or IEMs.

Conclusion

The bass is excellent—authoritative, weighty, fun—and the midrange is... fine. It's a bit forward and quirky, but not objectionable. But the treble is very difficult for me personally. This isn't an IEM I really enjoy listening to or have any desire to keep listening to, so for me, it doesn't quite hit.

Sound Quality Score: 4.4/10

Overall Score: 4.8/10


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/meze-astru-impressions-i-expect-this-to-be-controversial

I have these. On no planet are these a 4.4 out of 10. It’s actually so absurd that I find that you must not be credible at all. Do better. This is clickbait.

Did you watch the video? It goes into good detail about how his anatomy is such that many IEMs people find normal/good—including Astru—are simply not going to sound good.

He literally just rated the best IEM I’ve ever heard (Prisma Lumen) a 4.1 out of 10. He just needs something different, that’s all :slight_smile:

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Astru > Lumen for me, sorry bud.

Actually… I suspect Lumen will be more well received than Astru for more people. Audiophiles notwithstanding of course.

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Makes sense to me, but I understand why people who aren’t as (unfortunately) familiar with your anatomical effects and preferences would find such a statement controversial. No reason to apologise.

Like, what are we supposed to do, make a ranking list that isn’t based on our opinions/our own experiences? :joy:

Well, the thing with the Astru is that I feel you’d have to be further from the norm the other way in order to find it smooth sounding. I suspect when people say they love it, they’re identifying what our good friend Precog calls ‘tasteful coloration’. Detail and technicalities as a function of exaggeration. And in many ways, IEMs are so variable and fraught with HpTF issues that this kind of view to sound quality is actually more defensible.

I prefer Lux over Lumen largely because it has colorations that mask major pain points simply due to how they fit in the ear. It feels weird to say it’s bad that it has these colorations.

I don’t think its any more or less defensible; it’s subjectivity all the way down and people should be free to assign value however they choose. However, I also leave space for the possibility that the people who assign value to colorations above normalcy wouldn’t actually do the same in a blind test.

Why would it be bad for it to have those colorations if you enjoy them?

No I’m saying given the variation of IEMs, such colorations can be a blessing in disguise, as they’re making other colorations less bad.

Seems sound to me, yeah

Well I read the article. I understand the point but I think it’s trash. It reads like a bloated self important clickbait piece designed to stir up the pot. I don’t believe for a second anyone who listen to the Astru and conclude they stink. Anatomical differences or otherwise. I believe they may not fit someone’s preferences but at some level, they are objectively very good.

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What does this even mean though? I literally showed you what it’s doing in the ears of different people, and how perceptually it will be received differently from person to person. You want to be able to say there’s some special layer of performance to the product that persists irrespective of the response, and that this is what everyone experiences no matter what. But none of that is true.

It’s all just the result of the response in-situ at your eardrum, and more importantly, your conscious experience of sound is not universal. So just because you had a good time with it, doesn’t mean others are having that same experience. Quite frankly, I’d argue the self-importance label should apply to those who believe their experiences are what everyone else is experiencing.

“No, I had a great experience, therefore it is YOU who must be wrong!” See how absurd that is? That is what you’re doing.

We are going to start reviewing IEMs now based on this data? It would be impossible to manufacture an IEM that is universally acclaimed yet we have dozens if not hundreds of IEMs that are in fact universally acclaimed. So far every professional review of the Astru has been positive. Then you give them a 4.4? Sounds like the problem is you not the IEM. It’s fine that you don’t like them. I have a problem when you give something a trash score to make a point. A 4.4/10? Give me a break. You’d have more credibility if you said a 7/10. You must have some special golden ears if these are a 4.4.

If you think there are hundreds of IEMs out there that are universally praised you’re probably not looking for information in the right places, or at the very least haven’t looked very far into it.

As to the rating, we’re not doing the compressed scale thing you see on the various shill sites out there. A 7/10 would suggest I liked the sound quality. I did not.

Wanna know why you don’t see many negative reviews of these IEMs? It’s the same reason you don’t see many negative reviews period. Most people would prefer to put time and effort into only reviewing things they like.

There’s a pervasive idea that “you shouldn’t review it if you don’t like it”. In my opinion, that’s nonsense, and it leads to the kinds of statements you’ve made here. It’s the kind of thing that’s done serious damage to the information space on these products, and in many other areas as well. It signals to brands they should keep releasing stuff like this, and maybe they should think about it a bit differently.

I get that most people have never heard truly great sounding products, but when you’ve actually had the chance to experience what sound quality can be from these devices, you stop being okay with the kinds of compromises seen here. So I do believe it’s also a matter of context, beyond just preferences and HRTF and HpTF differences. But the simple fact remains, we’re not hearing these things the same way.

Moreover this is not head-fi. We’re not here to validate your purchases or be a support group for product owners. The simple reality here is that oftentimes what works for one person really doesn’t for someone else, and people should be equipped with that information.

How does equipping me with information about your personal ear calculations help me? It’s literally completely worthless. If your point is we all here things differently due to anatomical differences, it’s hardly news. You are also accusing other professional reviewers as being schills? Yeesch.

So you’re doubling down and basically saying the suck. Do you guys sell Meze? If I were them I’d dump you as fast as possible as a distributor. People reading your subjective views tied to some sort of internal ear calculations of your personal ears will truly think these iems suck and won’t buy them. What a shame. You’re not headfi here to help justify purchases? How disrespectful and insulting. This is the kind of pompous smug crap that I can’t stand about headfi ironically. I won’t be coming back to this website and I sure won’t be buying anything from you. Just admit you wrote an article for the sole purpose of generating clicks. Then we can all move on. Compressed rating system? Lol. Who annoited you king of IEMs?

Depends who you’re referring to, but if it’s the websites that give everything 8 or 9 out of 10… I have no problem calling it what it is. It’d be stastistically unlikely that every headphone is the best thing ever.

As to how it helps you, it shows that headphone performance is not a persistent thing, and if it behaves that way for me, it can behave that way for others too. Look at the data, more than one of us had a response the way I did.

You realize… there’s a difference between the review team and the store right? We’ve never said nice things about a product or a brand just because headphones.com carries them, moreover Meze knows we don’t do this. We’re not here to just promote this stuff, and if there’s things we don’t like about something, you can bet we’re going to say so.

Also, I don’t know why you’re hung up about nefarious motives for putting out a negative review. People in this space want these products to be good. You keep coming back to this idea that I somehow made up a negative review about a product that Headphones.com sells, for the sole purpose of generating clicks, and that this is somehow… better for them???

Alternatively, maybe… perhaps… your experience of the product being amazing isn’t indicative of everyone’s.

And to imagine that anyone could be ‘king of IEMs’, no that’s an absurd concept. IEMs are far too variable in how they’re received for anyone to try to play the authority game. I’m merely giving commentary on my experience with the product, because someone else may have that same experience too. How shameful.

Actually you know what, fine. I changed my mind. Meze Astru is 10/10, banger of a product if I ever heard one.

SMH inconsistent and a shill? I’ve lost all respect for you and you can be damn sure I’m going to be reporting you to the King of Audiophile Reviewers, Bert Reviews.

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Please, we all know the king is Zeos.

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