I see no reason for one not to do as many adjustments as they like, the content of the above was mostly just to give people a similar-to-flat-tilt one filter adjustment that may get them rather close.
On my CrinGraph site I basically let people choose whatever bass shelf, ear gain filter, and treble shelf (within reason) as well as adding a separate flat 20Hz-20kHz tilt, separate filter for the shelf from the OP, and separate Air filter (10 kHz high shelf)
I ran with the idea and made a -5dB half-tilt target but with similar treble slope to the 2013 trained listener (minus the roll-off) response via a -1.8dB tilt filter centered at 1750Hz (maybe lower). Is it possible to add a Tc filter so that there can be a modular tilt rather than the high shelf alone? I have found the Harman high shelf to be limiting and produce less timbrally accurate results to a treble tilt (or even a roll-off emulating peak filter).
By “TC filter” do you mean a lowpass with a variable slope?
I mean a tilt filter with variable center.
Bit confused, wouldn’t a flat tilt of a certain slope effectively be the same adjustment regardless of where the corner frequency is?
Can you give me an example?
Also, check out my github site, it has many more adjustments (as well as the ability to alter the corner frequency of most adjustments by clicking the label next to the text box) than just the Harman ones.
Been following the discussion. And I’m a bit confused as well. But maybe Kierke is lookin for somethin like this, where you can define the point where the tilt starts or ends?
This is easily done in EAPO’s Configuration Editor with a variable 3-point GEQ btw.
GraphicEQ: 20 0; 1000 0; 20000 -2
Got it, thank you! Though it may be reductive, itge definition/explanation is simplified just enough for someone like me, an utter noob, to understand.
Sorry, let me try to clarify. I mean a multi-tilt set by range. There would be a main tilt, such as -1dB, then a secondary tilt set to start at a given frequency, such as a -1.4dB tilt starting at 4500Hz. This would simulate a wider range of DIs but is also a best practice for me; I have just had to manually make these multi-tilt targets in REW. My preference tends to consist of three tilts, but just a secondary one would open up a lot of options. My results are not too dissimilar from your half-tilt, but I also tilt the treble to preference, using around that break point where the ideal steady-state response straightens.
This probably is not what you want, but EAPO should allow you to use as many different “tilts” as you desire, using either a single GEQ filter, or using multiple GEQ’s with its stacking feature, so each can be tweaked independently if you prefer.
The Analysis Panel at the bottom shows you the combined result of all filters in the stack (just two in this particular case).
Unfortunately, most of the time I will not be using a computer or device that allows EQApo, but I appreciate the how-to. I just think it would be handy for the web-based graph tools.
