If you pay for a whole year, you have 30 days to pay for the remainder of a lifetime account. Meaning you only have to pay about $580; past 30 days you’d have to pay full price…in case you didn’t know.
Do you remember how much the discount was?
Thanks, I’ll give it a try!
As a side note, back in October 2020, COO of Roon said they are “debating killing the lifetime before the end of the year (2020), or they may have another price increase”. His reasoning was that they needed quick money in the early days of Roon, so lifetime made sense back then but today subscriptions are better for the company.
I’m curious how things will go with the latest Spotify HiFi announcement. I like a lot of things about Roon (especially the ease of using DSP), but the discovery features of Spotify is unmatched for me and most of the stuff I stream is 16/44.1 anyway.
The lifetime subscription could disappear anytime. They would much prefer the constant revenue stream. I’m just about 5 years in on my lifetime subscription. Effectively, I’m using Roon on the house’s money now.
Does this mean current lifetime subscribers could end up paying monthly/yearly as well in the near future?
There wasn’t a Black Friday lifetime sale in 2020, unless it was only available to existing subscribers (which I wasn’t). The only deal I found was 90 days for $1, which was still a great deal.
Yeah, I got on that deal too–though now it’s over…I did pay for 1 year after
Are you a current subscriber?
No. But in the event Roon gets sold who knows what can happen. If Roon decided they were going to charge me for my current level of service, I wouldn’t continue just on principle. A deal is a deal.
If they want to branch out and do a Roon to go service in the future, they could charge for that, but the service would need to be optional. Lifetime subscriptions are to raise capital. Its a risk per se to the purchaser, since in the early days, Roon had a far higher risk of failure than it does now. Early adopters accept that risk, and the reward is the continued service as a lifetime subscriber.
I have other programs/players that equal or better Roon RAAT in my system.
Are you guys trying to get me to spend some Cheeze???
I had a question on how to keep the Roon library on my NUC in synch with my PC, which is where I keep all my original flac files and also where I do metadata management.
I managed to build a NUC and import all my music from my PC into an internal SSD on the NUC (full writeup to come). Let’s say that my PC flac files are in a folder called ‘Music’. I dragged and dropped the Music folder into Roon and let it run through the night.
When I looked at the internal storage folder of the NUC this morning, I saw several folders called something like “imported at 2021-04-24T19-51 UTC-05_00” and within each of those is a folder called “Music” that contains a small batch of the original Music folder. I was expecting to see a mirror image of the original Music folder. More importantly, my mirroring software (FreeFileSync) expects the folder structure to be the same on both sides.
If I create a new “Music” folder in the NUC, can I safely move all the contents of those subfolders into the new one without screwing up Roon? In other words, treat the NUC’s internal storage just like a regular PC hard drive?
I want to get rid of this folder structure (numbers are there to show the folder-subfolder structure):
And have this instead:
There are 153 of these stupid imported folders to clean up so it will be a PITA, but I don’t want to screw up Roon and have to re-import everything.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
@Roark PM’d me with some great advice. It looks like all the “imported at…” folders were created because I still had the Roon server running when I did the import, and Roon was trying to process the new files at the same time as copying them. I’ve turned off the Roon server and will treat the NUC SSD as a network drive, and will rearrange the files into a single folder before turning Roon back on again. Will report back later with results.
Thanks @Roark!
HELP! I’m lazy and am missing an audio zone…
I don’t know if this is due to a ROON update, or switching to a new iPhone, or what. Last night, I was listening to my new iPhone 12, had the Apple Camera Card 3 connected to the iFi xDSD. Qobuz direct from the phone was fine.
Gratuitous callout to usual suspects: @mfadio @Torq @PaisleyUnderground @ProfFalkin @rrwwss52 @MRHifiReviews @antdroid
Then I went to try ROON, and the iPhone was just able to work like a remote for my ROON core on the Mac Mini. I could see my SONOS zones, and anything attached to the Mac. What I could NOT see was the zone I usually associate with an i-device (either iPhone or iPad) and my xDSD.
Moreover, I could not find a way to enable it. I tried plugging in and unplugging. I tried going to the Mac and seeing if I could locate it from there. And I even tried READING THE DOCS.
Any help would be appreciated. All connected to the same WiFi net, of course, or it would not have connected to the ROON core.
1). In your iPhone settings, go to Roon, and make sure it is allowed to access the local network.
3). If neither of those work, post back here with more obscenities and screenshot of zones available from iPhone.
(Sent from phone, spelling and formatting will be crap, sorry / not sorry)
Is your iphone12 updated to the current app firmware version. My iphone only shows on the settings screen when the Roon app is active. I have an XR.
The re-install worked. Thanks and thank you too, @rrwwss52
New Roon user here in day 4 of my trial. Gotta say the team has hit it out of the park with the software and onboarding experience. As someone who designs UX for a living I’m impressed with the simplicity + power user features and can see how the subscription cost is easily justified, especially with more complex listening setups.
I wanted to ask you all about volume level controls… Previously when running FLAC or Qobuz in WASAPI exclusive mode I’ve relied solely on my amp to make level adjustments. There seems to be quite a few opinions about the software-based DSP level controls and whether or not the impact of signal is noticeably detrimental, so wanted to do a quick poll on how many of you use DSP based leveling. If not, why not?
0 voters
Roon’s internal DSP volume control (and all other EQ/DSP) uses 64-bit math, so is as close to audibly transparent as matters.
That said, I still use the analog volume control on my WA234 MKII MONOs as they are also fed from sources other than Roon/DACs. And I use the volume control on DAVE rather than Roon’s DSP control, as there’s a physical knob I can twist for it, rather than fannying around with an app or PC to do it.
It’s not a qualitative concern (even though no DSP or software/digital volume control can be bit-perfect … only audibly-transparent, minus unavoidable changes to dynamic range and SNR), it’s an ergonomic/practicality one.
If you give me a physical knob, I will use the physical knob.
There’s also the fact that analog volume knobs will make a bit of difference in how hard you’re hitting input stages. Turning an amps volume knob means something different than clicking the volume knob in roon. Channel balance, voltage/impedance swing, etc.
That all said I’m with Torq, the internal DSP in roon for volume control seems pretty solid. I don’t find the EQ 100% transparent though.
Thanks for the replies. Makes sense on still using the analog knob for practical reasons when more convenient. Safe to say then the decision to avoid DSP for sound quality reasons as being one of those “purist values” decisions vs one grounded in real-world noticeable differences?
I’ve been experimenting with volume leveling on (per track as I am a mostly shuffle kinda guy), and so far has helped me spend more time siting back in the chair with my eyes closed really listening to the music and less time sitting up fiddling with settings - a huge benefit for me.
I would use that feature if I was shuffling too, but that isn’t how I use Roon. I do use the Roon DSP volume, but only when volume level matching for comparing components. Other than that I use the physical knob on my amp.
