STAX Discussion for STAX and Other Electrostatics

Hi Guys,

Today we are talking about a couple of amplifiers, well, one is a DAC/Amp combo, from Stax Headphones. These are both electrostatic amps, and are nearer the entry level in terms of new pricing for desktop electrostatic amplification. The D50 is a solid state DAC/Amp combo unit, and the SRM-500T is Stax’s current entry level tube amp. The D50 retails for $1260USD, and the 500T retails for $1499USD, so they are fairly similar in their pricing. One of the main barriers for people who are interested in electrostatic headphones is the amplification needs, so I was curious how a couple of Stax’s more affordable amp models would fair in a comparison.

The D50 also includes a ESS Sabre 9018 based dac, so can be used as an all in one unit. The 500T is purely an amplifier, so does also need a DAC of some form to be used.

I tested the D50 as an all in one, and also with a couple other DACs to get an idea of its separate sections performance. With the 500T I used a Topping D10S, and a Schiit Audio Yggdrasil A2.

Now, the Stax own amplifiers get a fairly rough reputation from the DIY crowd which surrounds the electrostatic end of the headphone hobby. I’ve owned a few of those designs (BHSE, DIYT2, KGSSHV Carbon) so I was curious how I would feel about the more entry level Stax amps, and how they would perform in comparison to the more expensive DIY designs.

D50 Front

First, lets talk about the D50 as an all in one unit. It is pretty much a plug and play solution for electrostatic headphones. I just used my laptop, direct into its USB input, and tried it with a few various headphones. As an all in one, its slightly bright, and somewhat lean sounding, but has a decent amount of power whilst also being a very manageable size. If you are looking for a decent all in one performer, and don’t have a lot of space, the D50 makes a good argument for its use in that situation. The DAC section struck me as being slightly bright and sharp sounding, and the sonics did improve using a slightly warmer and thicker sounding DAC to balance out the response between the two. With that being said, I think that if you already have a DAC on hand, the SRM-400S might be the better buy, as its amp section is supposedly slightly better than the D50’s, and costs about the same (1200USD.) I think that the D50 is best used as an all in one, and certainly has enough power for the Lambda series, and the 009S. For the 007mk2 I think I would recommend something with a bit more power on tap, as they are a very power hungry headphone. The X9000 is likely to be used with higher end amplification, but if the D50 is all you have, it would work in a pinch. As an all in one, easy to use, and compact solution, the D50 works very well with the Lambda series headphones. Their slightly warmer and less bright signature pairs well with the D50’s leaner brighter nature, and I never really had any problems with the sonic performance I was getting.

SRM-500T Front

The SRM-500T is a tube based amp. As mentioned previously, it is also an amp only solution, and it’s a few hundred dollars more expensive at MSRP than the D50. There is a slight warmth and “tube” sound to its overall sonic signature, but its not overly gooey and thick sounding as some tube amps can be. It manages 100v less overall in terms of output power than the D50, but for the Lambda series, it worked especially well. I just found it to be a more preferable sonic signature and easy to listen to. I tried my Topping D10s which is an ESS Sabre based unit, similar to the 9018 in the D50, and that did work quite well. I’d say the performance between the two DAC units was quite similar. Stepping up to my Schiit Yggdrasil A2, the sound did absolutely improve, but spending $2599 on a DAC for a $1500 amp maybe doesn’t make a ton of sense. There was slightly more detail from the Amp section of the D50, but the overall tonal balance, timbre, and sense of ease from the 500T, to my ears, was preferable.

D50 Rear

I think that if you need a DAC, or want an all in one, smaller unit, the D50 is the way to go between the two. If you happen to already have a DAC of some form, and are going to be driving a pair of Lambdas, the 500T is the right choice. Or, if you have a DAC of some form, but want a slightly less warm and more detail oriented sound, I would guess the SRM-400S would be the right choice. With that being said, I think the 500T makes an argument for its use particularly with the Lambda series, as they just seemed to be a really synergistic pairing.

500T Rear

In comparison to the (sometimes much) more expensive DIY options, these two Stax models aren’t awful. I think that the difference between the two categories of amps has been overblown over the years. Are the good DIY builds of the BHSE, and KGSSHV Carbon better? Yes, they are. They are more powerful, supply better, more detailed and seemingly faster performance, BUT, if you are using a pair of Lambdas or easier to drive electrostatic headphones, and just want to enjoy them without breaking the bank (as much…,) some of these Stax own amp designs do the job perfectly well.

The D50 is a nice, all in one combo unit. It isn’t very large, it looks nice, and would fit in on any modern computer desktop. The SRM-500T fits the more traditional look of Stax amplifiers, being long and narrow. It has the preferable sonic performance to my ears, but does have slightly less power and detail than the D50. Really, I think it depends on your needs, sonic preferences, and the headphones you will be using with it, as to which is the better choice for your uses.

Size Comparison

I think the main take away I have from my time with these two amplifiers is this – Don’t let amplification needs, and the supposed drop in performance in Stax’s own amps vs the popular DIY designs stop you from trying out electrostatic headphones. If you are simply curious, and buy a pair of L300, and pair them with the D50 or SRM-500T, it would let you try out electrostatic headphones, and see if you like them. You can always buy more expensive things later on should you end up really getting into the hobby, but the Stax amps are more affordable, and still let you drive your headphones to let you hear what they are all about. With the Lambda series in particular, I’ve found they don’t scale as high as the Omega series with more expensive amplification, so maybe a 500T would be all you would ever need.

I’d certainly recommend trying out the Stax amps if you are a beginner, and I really enjoyed my time getting to know a couple of them. “Theres always a bigger fish” as Qui-Gon Jin would say.

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If you have really good acoustic recordings - in particular of concerts where you have seen the performers in the same venue - try out pieces with above average treble energy. When I listen to the 009 and a bit lesser the 007 - Its got a sense of more detail than the recording (silvery, sheen, etc.). Its amusical - and its addictive to many.

When I hear the Voce - the bass is more realistic (but not planar level impact), and the highs might be slightly lacking, but its not adding. The balance between the ahh and shh is more correct to me. It needs a horse to drive it - the HFM Jr did a fine job, anything less and the bass won’t show up that well. The BH does a killer job of course.

Just my .02

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Your comments are right on. Years ago, I had a small Stax system (SR-5 with SRD.6) and the level of transparency and speed were awesome. For the demanding listener who wanted to hear ‘everything’, this type of design was the way to go. Almost like hearing a $200,000 speaker- based system straight into your ears. Not for bassheads however, but who cares? They were extraordinary for classical music, progressive rock, everything really. I haven’t heard the latest models, the company has been sold (if I recall correctly). Using the HD6XX now, but ZMF is on my radar: he is one of the very few innovators in the headphone world.

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A few weeks ago I got a SR-5 with a SRD-6, it was cheap and I figured it would be a good way to try Stax, I am glad that I did, I am addicted to their sound, now I understand what people mean by speed and clarity with Stax.

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That’s what I started with and I still have them. Big improvement with an actual e-stat amp compared to the SRD-6, you don’t need to spend a fortune on a decent amp, but if you get one, be sure to get one that has the PRO bias AND the Standard bias that the SR-5 (for me SR-5N) require.

A year or two ago I bought the Nectar Hive and it’s tied for my favorite headphone. Has the bass that the Stax is missing (although the newer SR-007 and above models are supposed to have bass).

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Oh I am already in the rabbit hole, :wink: I just got a SRM-006T, got a SR-5 Gold and a Lambda NB.

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Very good. Now you need to spend time reviewing the https://mjolnir-audio.com site on a regular basis for your rabbit food. I went for one of Birgir’s (Spritzer’s) SRM-T1S modified builds, which suits me pretty well at this stage. But I really like the Hive, and am hoping that someday, someone will compare them to the SR-007 series. They needed break in, but I really like their sound. For the price - if you already have both an e-stat amp and a standard amp, they are excellent. The only headphones I have that compare well with them are my Rosson RAD-0 planars.

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Thanks, yes, I already been sniffing Mjolnir’s site, love the amps and some of the stuff he offers, but most of that stuff is wait out of my budget, and I think if I show at home with one more audio related gear it won’t be pretty. :wink:

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Hello.
I made an account specifically to bring into light a possible risk many may have to take into account when opting to use alternative amps for STAX products. (or it may be relevant to all products with electrostatic drivers that require such devices)
Official STAX rep on twitter is reporting about receiving increased number of products for repair lately with similar damages consisting of electrical discharge within the drivers followed by ruptured membranes. Upon further communication with their clients, they noticed they shared one thing in common: all of them were used in conjunction with non-STAX amps.
The first two tweets are indicating one case.

Many replies to these tweets are calling for STAX to further investigate which products will cause such damage, but considering their modest language used for the tweets above I don’t think they’re willing to expose any manufacturers for malpractice (as per usual with any Japanese manufacturer to avoid any form of friction)
Anybody here willing to take this upon themselves?
Or maybe the social media team can collaborate with LTT Labs or someone else with a large enough voice, the technical know-how in terms of electronics, and the financial girth to test a whole bunch of electrostatic amps/energizers out there?
Because at this rate, you never know when someone will literally blow out their ear because of this.

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Couldn’t post three URLs in one post due to the “new user” limitation.

The third tweet reads that this isn’t an isolated incident and is one of many instances.

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I posted a response on head-fi, I think I have at least some idea about why this is happening and why it is almost always the 009 a bit of 009S and the X9000 which may experience these issues.
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And the bad thing is Stax will simply put the blame on aftermarket amps without providing detail which one was it etc.
While those will put the blame on Stax having manufacturing issues without acknowledging that something is indeed different with them.