ZMF Vérité C - Closed-Back Dynamic Headphone - Official Thread

Must resist… Must.

It’s right at the bottom of each graph.

Label length is limited, so abbreviated … with the initial letters, in brackets, for each denomination.

The “Un-L-NP” means Universe, Lambskin, Non-Perforated …etc.

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So far I’m leaning towards the Universe, Lambskin, Non-Perforated with the Vérité Closed.

Loving these things!

No more closed-back headphones, I said …

No more headphones at all that didn’t replace something else, I said …

Yet here I am, actively contemplating what wood I want these in.

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I see now, thank you. Those Un-L-NP appear to be the most neutral.

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Unperforated suede… mmm

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ZMF Vérité Closed - Auteur, Eikon & Vérité Pads - Frequency Response

Some more pad response measurements, for the three remaining pad sets that I had on hand to test with - namely the (Au)teur, (L)ambskin, (N)on-(P )erf, (Ei)kon, (L)ambskin, (N)on-(P )erf and (V)érité, (L)ambskin, (P )erforated.

And with both HEQ and CUST compensation curves (see here for details on the rig and measurement approach ):

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ZMF Vérité Closed vs. Focal Stellia - Frequency Response

I think the most commonly requested comparison I’ve had so far, regarding the Vérité Closed, (excepting comparisons to the Vérité Open, of course) has been for the Focal Stellia:

Black trace is the Vérité Closed with the Universe, Lambskin, Non-Perforated pads installed. Red is the Focal Stellia. And since both plots are within 0.5 dBwhen calibrated at either 300 Hz or 1 kHz, I’m only showing the 300 Hz plot.

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Woah. That’s way closer than I expected. Thx Torq.

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This makes me think the Stellia is still slightly more smooth in the treble. It’s something I loved about it when I heard it. I may be oversimplifying things but the shape of that rise for the Stellia at 8.5khz is definitely my preference for that region (as I’ve noticed with the Ananda vs Arya as well), and speaking as a Verite Open owner, that’s the one area that I think could be improved upon. Still, the overall technical ability of the Verite (open in my case) has me preferring it over the high end Focals. You get almost all of the detail without losing the stage.

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The FedEx guy brought me something nice this AM. :slight_smile:

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Is that the Monkey Pod or Desert Ironwood?

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Theyre Monkey Pod.

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Home…and on my home gear with the Verite C; These scale well, which I was expecting, as the Verite O and the Aeolus both scale well with amps.

Tried on the Phonitor XE and they become quick, precise, and analytical sounding.

Onto The EC ZDT Jr. and they bloom into dynamos of sweet, precise sound, with a nice warmth and wow…just nice…

BHC+SB now and take the EC ZDT Jr. and multiply it by X. I thoroughly enjoy these with the tubes! BHC+SP gets a little wider and more resolving. The 3D effect gets more pronounced. I really like this combo…and I’m on the R2R DAC which isn’t exactly a detail monster lol.

CAYIN HA-1A MKii, oooh…what is happening here…not as wide as the BHC+SP but warmth and neutrality are here !!! I’m trying to re-think that statement, Neutral with a touch of warmth…honestly pairs very well with the Verite C, kind of a nice balance between the Phonitor XE and the BHC+SB…

The Verite C is for me a fantastic sounding headphone…at this stage I’m willing to say my favorite so far closed back…

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It’s between the Vérité Closed and the Stellia for me.

The Vérité C already having dispatched the HD820 in this regard.

We’ll see where I wind up in a few weeks when I get them back from you! :wink:

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I should have made @DarthPool wait until Sunday to hand over the Vérité Closed …

A rare thing for me, but I actually miss them.

And it’s been barely 24 hours …

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Seriously! I know these feels! It’s going to be very hard giving them back! :wink:

My reaction when I got the news I get to listen to these, then the realization I have to give them back:

I very much so, appreciate you and Zach allowing me to give them an extended listen, while you’re away.

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And…how I spent my morning and lunch at work today:

So onto the evening and I’m sipping some rum (Kaniche Perfeccion) and damn… I may prefer these to the Verite Opens…there is something there that just grabs me with the closed version…been going back and forth between the two… and that mild bump in warmth has a big effect on me. It has for me an added “pull me in” factor… also the tonal balance is slightly more smooth on the closed. I mentioned this in another forum… but the Verite Closed sounds like the Aeolus turned up to 11 with the Verites detail, imaging, and stage. The funny thing is it is subtle, and I’m still trying to put my finger on what I’m hearing that has me feeling this way…maybe it’s the rum :smirk:¯_(ツ)_/¯

@Torq I think it might be the mids… you mention in your impressions up above:

This and I think this comment is what is making these that added boost/differentiating factor to the Opens:

Verite C is just wow…

Ok, now back on the Verite Opens…and honestly thought I still had the closed on for a couple of tracks I had to reach up and feel the grill to remember which headphone I had on! That is awesome, I don’t think I’ve had that experience with a headphone before… yeah the difference is very subtle…I’m back on the Closed and it is the added warmth, Mid “sparkle” :wink: and that slightly “boosted”? 3d-ness that the Closed have I think is what I’m hearing over the Opens. Just Fantastic…oh damn, Rodrigo y Gabriela live in France just came on…and that “sense of space/ambiance from some venues is remarkable” quote from you was like ears meet awesome :wink: lol.

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Excellent pictures and a great collage!

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Yeah… kind of an oh that’s what that button in Photoshop Express does :sweat_smile: moment today… Face meet palm plus, collages I think make it slightly easier to post multiple pictures =) If anyone wants me to post individual pictures just ask and I will =) also any questions regarding the Verite C, I’ll do my best to answer them. But I may @torq for more robust answers if he is available to answer.

Honestly, Torqs initial impression post is pretty spot on for me as well. So I feel like I’ll just be doing more of these stream of concious posts =) with a mini review before I “have” to give them back to Torq :wink:

Me walking back to my car after giving them back…

then later that night…


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@DarthPool we’ll need you to bring that to the HeadFi meetup :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :wink:

Who cares about sleep and family… :smiley:

No seriously, we’ll have to meet up so I can try those again when we’re both back from vacation. :slight_smile:

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