Audeze LCD-X Open-Back Planar Headphone - Official Thread

Thanks!

This new GRAS rig is really a welcomed tool. Thanks for posting these measurements.

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Here it is with Reveal+ (green line):

It’s a bit better for the bass and lower mids but it also confirms my suspicion that Reveal+ is too conservative in the upper mids. It could be that it’s more applicable to the older unit, like the one before they changed the mesh.

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That really didn’t do much. That’s interesting. :thinking:

Thanks, Andrew.

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I’ve got a 2018 X with the felt grill. I’ll give this EQ a go this week and see how it goes. I tried out the one posted by Metal571 in his review and it does sound pretty great, but has a 9db peak, so I tend not to use it as it involve clicking too many options on/off when I switch between headphones. I generally settle for the reveal preset, or if I’m having a long setting specifically with the X I use the Sonarworks correction.

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@Resolve, are those LCD-X the same pair Max Settings had?

No. I think it’s the same revision, but as far as I know it’s a different unit.

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Yeah I saw another measurement of an older lcd-x and it looked way different. So I’m not sure the EQ I posted will be appropriate for the older ones.

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I have the one Max reviewed now. The 2018 unit is different and was from a viewer. Can confirm, upper mids are super dead. I’m still playing with equalizing the new one, but I’m going to say this pretty plainly and simply: this headphone is unacceptably colored as it exists now. To my ear there is almost 7 dB too little upper midrange, and that’s to my highly recessed tastes! Way off.

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Hi,

So last night, I did a comparison of the LCD X using 2 amps which are Auralic Taurus MKII and Burson Soloist SL, I just wanted to share my impressions:

Burson Soloist SL (Single Ended)

Now, I know why many are saying that this is a good combo. With a full bass, meaty mids and an open treble it really makes the music more palpable. One of the key genres with this combo are Jazz, Acoustic / Live and other well mastered Pop genre. Of course, poorly mastered music will definitely sound either peaky or either congested.

Auralic Taurus MKII (Single Ended)

Pairing this amp with LCD X honestly gave me a mixed impressions and feels it the amp sounded anemic. Switching back and forth with Burson, the Auralic sounded lean in comparison. The bass is not as full, the mids are a bit far away from you (compared to ā€œmore in your faceā€ in Burson) and the treble it is a bit more pronounced but it does have more air into it. I tried playing different genres to confirm this and it did, Burson really sounded full compared to Auralic. Does it really mean, that the Burson outshines the Auralic for a lot less money? Things changed when I played orchestral music, it as from a Mcintosh Demo Disc and sadly forgot the name. While listening that certain passage from Auralic, I can really feel the openness, wide presentation and fast transients - so I decided to use the same piece with Burson and it came to me that this is where the difference of 2 amps lies.

Auralic is really in control of the LCD X while Burson’s control is a little bit looser - this is the best that I could describe the two in layman’s terms. Auralic’s presentation using LCD X is ā€œlinear-wideā€, the bass is tight, fast paced, mids are a little bit farther giving a somewhat wider presentation and treble is smooth, a nice zing to it but never became troublesome. Burson’s presentation on the other hand is ā€œintimate-bloomyā€. Bass presentation on the Burson has a little bit of bloom, it is really engaging, mids even if its a little bit closed in, it is full bodied and the treble sounded like less refined compared to treble of Auralic.

Thank you for reading. :slight_smile:
Whill

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Great impressions. Sounds like you enjoyed the whole exercise.

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Yes Sir definitely!

Although it is not very objective in a sense, but atleast I have a grasp of the strengths and weakness of the my amps.

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Hey!! Well done. I also can relate and understand some of your findings because I own the Burson Soloist (nearly 6 years now ) and the LCD XC (2018 purchase) .
The Burson is a wonderful amp that really does its job well. I guess I am one of those Burson/LCD X or XC supporters. I’ve upgraded the DAC section to prove to myself over the years that is where my soundchain really needed upgrades. As of now I’m hooked on the Chord Qutest paired with the burson SL and LCD XC. Long story short you might end up keeping that Burson for a while. I find it is incredibly worth it’s price tag.

Enjoy man. Thanks so much for your impressions.

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thanks,

Actually, when not comparing to another, it is very hard to discern the differences at all. After doing that unscientific comparison, it became much harder to choose between the 2 amps for LCD X. It is like choosing Burson for a fun and forgiving listening or Auralic for utmost transparency but on the expense of finding well mastered songs.

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Forgot to mention that this is the new 2020 revision, with the mesh

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So neither Reveal+ nor @Resolve 's EQ sounded right to me (I’m coming from HD 600). Luckily, seems like you can still contact Audeze support with your serial number, and they will send you the FR graph for your unit. Here’s mine - looks pretty different than what I’ve seen before. I’m a noob at EQ, but I’m going to try…

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Yeah it’s tough to EQ on these because depending on when you got it, the FR may be different (apparently even the ones with mesh have some variance. My understanding is this may have more to do with pads than anything driver related). So I don’t think a ā€˜profile’ is going to be right for everyone. I’d say take a look at the video I did on how to EQ it, and then make your own based on what you hear.

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So that looks like it’s compensated for Audeze’s Target Curve, correct?

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Compensated for their target curve yes. From my understanding it’s similar to harman but slightly more relaxed in the upper mids, and without the bass shelf. @metal571 may want to chime in on this one to give a better answer.

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I’m used to uncompensated graphs, I need the squiggly line to better grasp what I’m looking at. :laughing:

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Yeah that’s what I dislike about compensated measurements. If you don’t know what the target is, it’s kind of meaningless.

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