Audeze - Official Thread

The LCD-R is certainly limited by the Jot-A. When I had the LCD-R, I tested it out with an NCore speaker amp with an L-pad attenuation circuit, and the changes were night and day. The Jot-A sounds veiled, soft, and flat in comparison. With the NCore amp, the microdinamics greatly increased, and the separation became so much better. If you have a clean speaker amp, the LCD-R can really show what it is capable of. Even when playing at lower volume and the Jot-A at higher volume, the Ncore amp displayed noticeable improvements in dynamics and clarity.

I no longer have the LCD-R (got rid of it because I prefer the LCD-5 ), but any owners should seriously pressure Audeze for a list of parameters an amp should have in order to drive the LCD-R, or create guidelines on how to use the LCD-R with a speaker amp.

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Hey guys. Im trying to put this into roon but its coming out looking majorly messed up. anyone know where Im going wrong? Im taking the bottom number to be Q value and the one right above it to be change in DB, correct? Also, I am assuming the top number is total headroom compensation? Here is what my roon corrected FR is looking like

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They may have changed this, but if I recall correctly Roon’s shelf filters don’t behave the same way that the PEACE ones do - or at least I had trouble with that. Might have to devise a different method of achieving the curve.

EDIT - oh I see what you mean.

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any chance PEACE has a graphic display you wouldnt mind posting so I can see what your curve ends up looking like?

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Rofl, yah. Not even close to what I’ve got. Ill see what I can manage. Unfortunately cant use PEACE on my work PC

EDIT: BTW, you had more time with Rs yet to form a better option? Wasnt sure if we would be getting a video on them or not.

EDIT2: Is the row right above the q-value measured in dB? It seems like my trebble is more off than the bass and it doesnt have any shelfs in it at all

Ok, so turns out I had a shelf by mistake in one of them. Closer now, but still off a bit. We will see how I can refine this
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@Resolve are there any cut off in the intial band listing? It looks like you added a peak north of 10k by the graph but there arent any filters shown for that above.

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That still doesn’t look right. Let me make a Roon profile here.

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I massively appreciate the help

This looks like it has a band past 10khz that isn’t shown in the PEACE screenshot.

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OH I just realized you were talking about the R and not the 5. My bad. I’ll post the R curve, one sec.

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ah! That makes a lot more sense comparing the graphs. tyvm again

Here you go. Looks pretty similar:

Remember to set gain to -6

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ok, cool. Looks like everything is fine then. I was mostly just confused because of the LCD-5 graph. Ill try this out after lunch and see how it goes. Im becoming more and more currious if my love for the LCD-R (and the stank it puts on some stuff) comes from FR or something else tbh

Here’s what my AutoEQ generated for the LCD-R. If anyone wants to try my EQ i’d be interested to hear your opinions of it.

With Bass Boost:

Preamp: -7.2 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 5.8 dB Q 0.73
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 72 Hz Gain 1.8 dB Q 1.18
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 236 Hz Gain -2.9 dB Q 1.13
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 904 Hz Gain -4.2 dB Q 0.97
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 1076 Hz Gain 1.9 dB Q 2.32
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 4191 Hz Gain 1.7 dB Q 1.81
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 4262 Hz Gain 6.3 dB Q 1.62
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 5157 Hz Gain -3.5 dB Q 3.62
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 8626 Hz Gain 3.8 dB Q 2.81
Filter 10: ON PK Fc 14137 Hz Gain 0.9 dB Q 2.57

Without Bass Boost:

Preamp: -7.5 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 43 Hz Gain -2.2 dB Q 1.47
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 183 Hz Gain -2.3 dB Q 0.48
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 890 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 1.23
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 1022 Hz Gain 1.6 dB Q 2.71
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 4190 Hz Gain 7.9 dB Q 1.73
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 5190 Hz Gain -2.9 dB Q 3.84
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 8834 Hz Gain 4.1 dB Q 2.70
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 14030 Hz Gain 1.0 dB Q 2.46
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 21316 Hz Gain -0.2 dB Q 1.95

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If it helps with EQ, when I spoke to Audeze, they provided with this FR graph. I believe it’s an average of a few sets they measured.

(Yes, it seems like they’ve invested in an AP)

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Is this on a standard GRAS rig or on Audeze’s old measurement rig?

Edit: It looks broadly similar to Resolve’s measurement so i’d guess some kind of GRAS rig.

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No idea, that I didn’t ask about the measurement rig. The software used to graph it looks different to their older ones - the measurements you’ve seen tied to various headphone units (with the serial no.).

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I think for QC they use a flat plate, fine for just basic QC checks tbh. As for what their old rig is i can’t remember, maybe it is their current QC rig.

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Last time I asked for one of those graphs on their HATS it was a KEMAR. I think they are trying to or already have a 5128C now as well so it’s probably worth asking where that graph came from. It definitely has the characteristic B&K 8k feature if it’s a raw, which it looks like it is

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Yeah, seems raw and uncompensated.

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