Dan Clark Audio E3 Planar Magnetic Headphones - Official Discussion Thread

This is the thread to discuss the newly announced Dan Clark Audio E3 Planar Magnetic Headphones

The technology from the Stealth and Expanse has now trickled down the line-up into the new E3, coming in at $1999.99 USD.

From Dan Clark Audio

"E3 is our midrange closed-back headphone. E3 delivers a stunning level of performance and value, incorporating all the technological and ergonomic achievements of our flagship headphones, but at a more accessible price point.

Incorporating an all-new 5th generation driver and our pioneering Acoustic Metamaterial Tuning System, or AMTS, E3 delivers a true flagship performance, without the flagship cost."

DMS reviews the E3. I think most people know he wasn’t the biggest fan of the Expanse or the Stealth so interesting to see what he thinks about the E3!

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It sounds like a king of closed back. I’d love to hear a comparison between this and the ZMF Verite closed.

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I have bought a pair and have been enjoying them, my only complaint would be the lack of bass and some bass distortion when EQ’d. Other than that they are as smooth as eggs, very natural sounding but suffer more in some bass heavy and attack heavy songs.

Would love to see some measurements on it, or EQ suggestions. The best amp/dac pairing I found was the Shanling H5, really added a lot of punch and liveliness to it, while giving them a tube-like warmth. I tried it with 4 different dac amp combos, none of them were anything like this. The H5 has an output impedance of 4-6 ohms, so maybe that is affecting the frequency curve in a pleasant way

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That’s surprising, given that they follow a Harman curve, which has a bunch of bass-lift.

Are you lowering your pre-gain before bringing up the bass levels?

If not, you’re probably getting digital clipping (very audible distortion) rather than actual, physical, distortion from the headphone/driver.

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Curves aren’t everything. For example the arya organic, if you look at the shelf there you’d never expect to get the amount of bass you get from that headphone. I would say the bass extension is already at it’s limit. It doesn’t quite clip but it goes from clean to fart/boomy sounds in less than 4 db if you mess with anything under 80 hz, in some songs it does this without EQ.

This could be a trick of the ears due to fast decay and a lack of bass resonance due to AMTS.

Without EQ:

Song examples would be Yonkers by tyler the creator, the bass line is distant, weak, and sometimes a bit distorted. DNA by Kendrick lamar bass line is pillowly and lacks resonance, boomy. MAAD city by Kendrick also falls short.

Basically, don’t use this headphone for EDM, DNB, or Hip Hop.

The Arya Organic, Focal Clear, Focal Bathys, and HD 6xx all performed better on the bass lines for these songs. Rumble is an issue for this headphone. Even though some of these lack the same extension they all handled their renditions better without turning the song into an overdampened mess.

My pre-gain is -12 I think that’s enough, no other headphone I own does this, so it’s definitely the E3. I’ve tried 5 amp dac pairs with 2 different E3’s.

The provide an objective measurement of relative output for a given (constant) input level at a given frequency. Anything else isn’t the response of the driver/enclosure.

Extension refers to how low a frequency is played, you probably mean excursion.

Maybe it’s just a shitty headphone.

The ONLY factor on how much pre-gain reduction you need is the highest level of gain you’re applying (regardless of frequency). If your biggest lift is +4 dB, then pre-gain at -12 dB just means you’re losing dynamic range and limiting your maximum output.

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I don’t disagree but I also don’t think that any test dummy has ears as large and a head as small as mine lol. The E3 is especially sensitive to positional variance as well, due to the angling of the inside of the cups. Glasses make notable changes to sound (to my ear)

Good to know! My amp has channel imbalance below 40% volume so I was trying to tone the pre-amp down so I could get the volume there without my ears bleeding.

Lol maybe, at least for bass heavy tracks. Sounds incredible in more natural sounding songs

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They do, for me, with some headphones … mostly seems to be pad-dependent … HD820 are very sensitive to this for me.

That makes sense.

Depending on the EQ tool you’re using, it may well be perceptually transparent to do that much negative gain in the digital domain (rather than via analog attenuation prior to your amp’s input).

I’ve not heard it …

But unless you’re listening at high levels to begin with, just increasing the level by 4 dB and getting bass distortion (or, at least, less control) would suggest the headphone itself has very little bass headroom. I say that, as it’d be well within the realms of normal volume adjustment to go +/- 4 dB, even without EQ.

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I will try analogue methods to improve the bass and see how it differs to rule out digital distortion. Theoretically if it is the driver Xbass should preform as poorly as peace EQ did with the bass shelf.

Wish I could get this tested to see if my unit isn’t defective, but it sounded just like the demo model

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I use the EF600, which sounds OK when paired with the in-house HiFiman headphones, but actually performs really well when paired with my DAN Clark headphones in high gain NOS mode.

I also can’t detect the bass weakness mentioned here with this pairing.

The E3 is actually a bit hungry for power and the EF600 delivers.

The Himalaya Pro R2R DAC ensures that the E3’s strengths are also exploited on the big stage.

All in all, a good symbiosis that certainly won’t break your neck financially.

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I’ve solved the issue with a better pairing, even though my amp puts out 4 VRMS it was apparently a little anemic, and the other one I tried, the Aune S17 pro was very smooth but also lacking in the bass. Then I tried the monolith liquid spark, wow, what a change. Punchy, smooth, slightly less soundstage but still revealing in it’s detail.

In short, it’s very source chain picky, and lighter on the sub bass capability side than most planars I’ve tried.

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How about a Denon receiver?

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Following the slow hype train, I got myself a DCA E3 as a Christmas present and have been using it for about a month now. And I have mixed feelings about it.

My use cases for it include background listening while working at a desk and late focused listening sessions on a couch. I don’t want to disturb my family or get disturbed in both cases, hence the idea to buy an expensive close back.

This is not a review but rather a summary of my personal experience on top of what has been mentioned in the reviews many times, as some of these things are not so apparent.

Build and comfort

The build quality is great. It did feel like unpacking and holding a premium product when I first got it out of the box. The foldable design, relatively light yoke-less construction with a wide self-adjustable strap is quite impressive. This has been regarded many times.

I have a relatively small head by audiophile standards, I think my hat size is M. And while I’ve seen several people complaining that E3’s clamp is too high or the headband is too small, I have the opposite issue with them. For me the headband is a bit loose while the strap is in its tightest position. The clamp force is low, and because the cups themselves are quite big and heavy, the pressure mostly goes onto my jaw rather than onto my temples.

As a result, the cups don’t “hug” my head as they are supposed to and it takes some effort to find a comfortable position. After a couple of hours the jaw muscles get tired from extra weight/pressure, and that can even lead to headache. Plus, I have a suspicion that I may be getting imperfect seal which is critical for DCA headphones. It gets better after some time, as the memory foam of the pads “breaks in”.

Tonal balance

The E3 is great for its tuning. I can’t say it’s perfect on my head out of the box though. Without EQ I hear it as clearly shouty and with a bit of sibilance. So I have to reduce 3.9KHz and 8KHz by a good amount (-3-4dB). Then I can enjoy it fully.

The EQ also helps getting rid of “plasticy” planar timbre, so that the timbre gets spot on. The vocals sound clear and natural, the hihats tick, and the guitar strings pluck delightfully.

Fun fact: I can listen to my OG Clear without EQ as long as I want and its jagged treble response doesn’t bother me, but I can’t listen to the E3 without EQ for a longer period of time despite it measuring much smoother on the rig.

Presentation

The imaging capabilities are great and sound staging effect projects space that is not enormous but is accurate. I was pleasantly suprised to hear how it can project images in different vertical positions as well as at different stage depth. Overall, E3 is good at putting the music “out there” rather than making it “intimately whisper in your ears”, which you may like or not.

Dynamics are pretty good. It depends largely on a record, but it can slam and bite pretty good. Not Focal Clear good but still satisfyingly good.

All of that comes with two caveats:

  1. Positional variation. At least on my head the imaging and frequency response changes drastically if a cup is shifted just by a centimeter in any direction. Sometimes I ask myself “why is all the sound coming from a flat plane on the right side?”, then I shift the earcups a bit and “ooh, everything is as it should be now”.
  2. Quality of a recording. This is a very revealing headphone. Great recordings sound great, good recordings sound good, mediocre ones sound mediocre. It doesn’t play any special tricks to make a track sound better than it is, which sometimes comes across as disappointing. “Why does my favorite track sound mushy and flat?” Well, because it is recorded mushy and mixed flat, I just didn’t notice it on other headphones so much.

If the recording is good then detail retrieval is very good and I can see why people put it in line with best of $2k open-back headphones. I can hear more things in my music than I could hear with my Focal Clear even after EQ. All of that without elevated treble to “enhance the detail” (I am looking at you, Hifiman).

Music genres

With those caveats mentioned above I tend to disagree with a popular opinion on the internet that E3 is a great generalist, a jack of all trades.

I find it great for instrumental music such as Jazz, Classical, etc. Those genres just shine on these.

Well-mixed Electronic and Pop tracks sound great if your intention is to listen rather than to dance to them. The imaging and layering and tonal clarity in the Electronic tracks can be quite captivating. Though if you listen to a dance track and you want it to pump, this is not the best headphone for the job. It may be enough, but there are better ones. Same is with vocal pop: if the track is mixed with vocals in focus, it may sound intimate and breathtaking. Or it may just sound OK.

Rock music is complicated. It’s not just the quality of recording that matters. Some releases are good on these headphones, some are just meh. What E3 generally lacks is engagement, it just doesn’t pull you in or scream in your head when you may urge it.

That’s why for most of Rock, Dance, and Vocal-focused music I prefer my Focal Clear. For instrumental and electronic soundscapes I prefer the E3.


All of that leaves me with mixed feelings as a long-time owner. On one hand, it’s legitimately an S-tier close-back headphone worth $2k of sound. On the other hand, the comfort issues prevent it from becoming my daily driver. And I am not the one who can afford a large collection of headphones to sit around and collect dust waiting for that very special moment I reach out for that specific headphone.

So I’m thinking of maybe selling it and getting an Azurys for the same use case. The problem is that I heard Azurys in Munich and it didn’t impress me in any way except for sounding “normal” across the board while being lightweight and comfortable. There is now also the new Noire X, but I really don’t like the sound signature of the original Noire, and that makes me skeptical. At least until I can listen it at a show.

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