Focal Utopia Open-Back Headphones - Official Thread

Not quite in agreement but I get the point.

I have pretty good high frequency hearing and I don’t have an issue and I wouldn’t call myself treble insensitive either. I think it just very source dependent, there are a lot of amps and a lot of mastering that does garbage to treble. Probably old audiophiles engineering these things :wink:.

I remember when I was scanning used for sale ads for the Utopia and I saw pics of it with the source gear that was used by the seller. I shook my head a lot of times. A $4000 can running off an entry level Schiit stack?! I like Schiit but the U needs better. I think a lot of people get duped in to buying this without understanding the upstream requirements.

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We all have different preferences and different hearing. Find what you like and be happy.

It’s all good.

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So I have the loaner with me right now, and I originally used the Utopia on the McIntosh MHA150 as posted above in a post in this thread. On that system I found this stupid bright, and I thought it was one of the worst headphones I have tried.

I will say that this headphone on the Starlett is MASSIVELY different. This does not remind me of the Utopia I tried at all. I would go as far as saying that it sounds like the one I tried on the MHA150 was broken with how bright it seemed. I have to attribute this to the amp pairing.

I would also say I am treble sensitive, DT770 250 Ohm, HD800 SDR and Grado are way too bright for me where I even get headaches just wearing for 20 minutes. While I might not think the Utopia is the end-all-be-all, I think that with the right chain the Utopia is a great headphone, and one that isn’t overly bright.

I will do a bigger writeup once I am done with the loaner.

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That Mac amp is notorious for being poor with the U, I kinda of want to hear it to experience the wincing.

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I only had an SPL Phonitor, Schiit Lyr, Rupert Neve Designs RNHP, DIY Inverting O2, and a DIY Noire on hand when I had the review unit. The Lyr was the best pairing from what I had on hand. The tube helped it, but not significantly for me.

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I demoed the MHA150 with a RAAL in store. Worst amp tone ever, and I mean ever. Sounded thick, bubbly, harsh, and rolled off. Just shocking badness for close to $10k. Drop 6xx easily better.

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I wonder if Macintosh is working more from past glory rather than current excellence. I just don’t hear much about them. I’m not versed in speaker world though so I’m probably full of it.

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I have heard and felt some modern McIntosh vs vintage McIntosh and I would say they are working on past glory. Since they kind of went full commercial, the new build quality is sub par on most of their products, they sound not so good, and are just way overpriced for what they are. They are getting by because they are a “luxury” brand for HiFi now. People see them and think high quality and high end, but really it was all built from their past, with most of their current products being pretty trash.

People are buying these because they have money, want a system, and don’t know better. The thing that would make me never buy a McIntosh product is their knobs. Let me tell you, the MHA150 has the cheapest knobs I have ever felt. Think $50 dollar ChiFi. Now think exponentially worse than that. I am serious, I have a $50 dollar ChiFi AIO that has better quality knobs than the MHA150 both in actual material (MHA150 is the cheapest thinnest plastic you will ever feel) as well as actual pot (MHA150 is the loosest pot I have ever felt, you aren’t careful and you turn way too much and you blew out your eardrums and exploded your headphones). That experience has lead me to never wanna buy a McIntosh product ever.

Sorry rant over :eyes:

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Found my write up…

Focal Utopia Impressions

First off, thanks to Taron, Andrew, and Tyler for providing the Utopia and coordinating getting them around to all the people to be demoed. I really appreciate the opportunity to try out a flagship headphone like the Utopia and you guys engagement with the community.

General thoughts / The TL;DR: In my experience, at its best, the Utopia provided a clean, strong, and unrestrained view into my music. The problem I had was getting to that “best” as I didn’t think it paired well with many of my amps (to my liking, at least). The sound was often brighter than I like and treble would get in the range of being rather piercing and fatiguing.

Look & Feel: The Focal presentation always seems to start with what I’ll call somewhat oversized but nicely done packaging. I suspect it’s done to create a luxury experience and, well, it does feel like you bought something significant unboxing it. Build quality is typical Focal build which looks and feels strong and high quality.

Setup 1: Matrix Element X -> SPL Phonitor -> Utopia

Vocals forward, kind of “in your face”. Very clear/transparent, good stage (width/depth). Leans bright, maybe too bright, depending on the track some sounds (claps for example) came in kinda hot. Bass is tight. A clean listen but not necessarily “enjoyable”

Setup 2: Element X -> Feliks Echo -> Utopia

I came in thinking this setup would be good, borderline phenomenal… I was disappointed.

Vocals more centered, stage good and strong. It was more dynamic than “Setup 1”, punchier but… Too harsh in the treble for much listening for me. Parts of some songs got a bit shouty. “Song of the Caged Bird” by Lindsey Stirling sounded solid, airy, and not harsh. Next I decided to try a funk track (“Doo Wa Ditty”)… this was a mistake with this setup, the “talk-box” sound and harmonica (i think) were painfully sharp. I didn’t spend much more time with this setup.

Setup 3: Element X -> Echo -> Phonitor -> Utopia

This was a more enjoyable setup than the first two; not as harsh in the treble and the stage was a little further back. “Song of the Caged Bird” by Lindsey Stirling sounded really, really good.

Setup 4: iFi pro-iDSD -> pro-iCAN -> Utopia

This is a tale of many options with the iFi equipment. But set in the ‘Tube+” mode, I found the Utopia in the most enjoyable state of all the setups tried. In solid state mode, it was still a little too shouty at points for me, Tube+ was smoother, wider, and clean/detailed enough that the Utopia felt like they were doing their thing and the reasons why people really like them were apparent to me.

Concluding thoughts:

Would I buy them, No. That’s not to say they are bad but the sound signature is just not for me. I had heard them very briefly at a CanJam before and knew coming in that I probably would feel they weren’t for me but wanted to give them a shot with the equipment I had. While I have a better appreciation for the capabilities of the headphones, it didn’t change my feeling that they weren’t for me.

I had the chance to demo the Focal Clears and Hifiman Susvara around the same time and found those both to be a bit more suited to my tastes. While the Utopia are better technical performers than the Clears (wider stage, etc, etc), I found the Clears more enjoyable for listening and far less fatiguing. The Susvara is a pretty amazing headphone.

Some Tracks used:

“San Spirito” - Jon Baptiste

“Me” - Tamia

“Song of the Caged Bird” - Lindsey Stirling

“Doo Wa Ditty” - Zapp

“Complexity” - The Roots

“Deeper” - Pete Belasco

“Hey Joe” - Jimi Hendrix

“Come Together” - The Beatles

“Sicko Mode” - Travis Scott

“Mercy Mercy Me” - Marvin Gaye

Thanks again to Taron and Andrew for sharing the Utopia with the community and to Tyler for orchestrating the demos! (Also, thanks to Dex and Chris for letting me try their headphones)

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It’s something how quality can change when the founders sell a company, which happened with Mac in 1990.

For audio, where the products are intimately experienced with the senses, I think there’s value to where those that design/build the stuff have skin in the game and own the business. Not a prerequisite, but a correlation for most of my gear choices.

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My experience with the Utopia is very similar to this. Based on my limited experience, amp pairing played a key factor on how they ended up sounding. They’re bright by nature but some amps can exacerbate that brightness to unbearable levels for some listeners, other amps can actually “tame” and/or control the treble response while giving more heft to the bass and mids - the WA33 does that. They sound brighter on the Phonitor X when compared to the WA33.

The amps I ran the Utopia off are:

  • Schiit Jotnheim V1
  • Schiit Mjlonir
  • THX 789
  • Phonitor X
  • HSA-1a and HSA-1b
  • Chord Dave
  • Chord Hugo TT2
  • WA33

Out of all of these amps, the WA33 was hands down the best at highlighting the qualities of the Utopia, followed by the HSA-1b, TT2 and Dave.

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With the usual caveat that everyone is more than welcome to their preferences, I just figured I’d throw my hat in the ring as someone who has enjoyed the Utopias out of almost everything I’ve run them through. I’ve had them for almost a year and have gone from:

Mojo > Utopia (great)
Hugo 2 > Utopia (greater)
Hugo 2 > Woo WA5-LE (w/ upgraded tubes) > Utopia (a treat!)
Hugo 2 > Feliks Euforia AE (w/ upgraded tubes) > Utopia (meh)
Dave > Utopia (wow)
Dave > Woo WA5-LE (w/ upgraded tubes) > Utopia (bliss)

I personally never felt they were bright or fatiguing, and I’m most certainly not an old audiophile…yet (I’m 34). Similar to @bigshel99, I didn’t like them at all out of the Feliks amp (slightly different in that it was Euforia vs Echo, but same family), which has been a highly touted pairing. The caveat there is that I get a huge kick out of the detail and clarity, and never felt they needed “warming up”, and I felt the Euforia muted the things I like about the Utopia, but again, personal preference. It definitely “reigns them in” if that’s the goal of the pairing.

My extremely limited experience with other pairings (at CanJam) were SPL Phonitor X (loved it), Focal Arche (pretty good), Mytek Brooklyn Bridge (felt it was slightly harsh/grainy), dCS Bartok (amazing - and ultimately what made me decide to pull the trigger on my Utopias).

Anyway, I think they’re awesome and don’t see myself trading them in anytime soon.

<3 Utopia <3

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Currently listening to the Utopias from my dCS Bartok+HP with the new Expanse DSP cross-feed capability: Double Amazing! I am a classical music and jazz fan, and these really deliver the goods!

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One day, I’ll have to get a Bartok and compare to DAVE. Except for the Utopias, I try to buy almost everything used, so that I can try it and re-sell with minimal loss if I don’t like it. That said, I see DAVEs come up enough that there are usually a couple that pop up every month or two. I think I’ve only seen two used Bartoks ever, and it was one until I saw one on Head-Fi just yesterday. Anyway, I absolutely loved the Bartok, and whether or not I ever own one, I’ll always have a spot in my heart for it.

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I don’t disagree with your experience. This viewpoint makes me want to administer hearing perception tests to everyone on this forum. This is not the same as the ability to hear (aka hearing loss or deafness). Knowing individual perceptual limits is indeed essential for disentangling subjective impressions from measurements. The Utopia has switchblade, icepick treble to my ears.

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Great review @bigshel99.

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I can assume the HD800s compared the Utopia is: Utopia has better dynamics, better bass definition and extension, but the sound stage goes to the HD800s.

My question would be, how are the Mids, Highs, timbre, detail, and imaging compared to the 800s?

It seems a lot of people say the HD800 and the Utopia are similar in terms of detail, so the HD800s would be a little less? I feel like I am trying to compare apples and oranges in my head, so I apologizes in advance if these questions come across as lacking.

I just got this delightful headphone amp a few days ago; I tried it with all 4 of my headphones. It made my LSA HD-1, HifiMan HE-1000 V2 and Meze Empyreans sound superb. But with the Utopias, it went beyond superb into the transcendental. I never heard music sound like that before. Highly recommended to any Utopia owner, and under $1000, made in Stockton, CA…

Quicksilver Amp

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Great Post,

I am in the process of picking the Utopia or the Susvara, this was helpful, thank you.

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Focal Utopia Review

Written by Chrono

Introduction

As a culmination of Focal’s 40 years of loudspeaker-making experience, the Utopia is a French-made headphone designed with the goal of delivering nothing short of the purest, most faithful listening experience.

The Utopia, which retails at a whopping $3,990, was the first headphone designed by Focal and it’s the one that introduced their signature, pure-Beryllium ‘M’ shape dome speaker driver, which has laid the foundation for the driver designs and variations in all of Focal’s subsequent headphones releases.

NOTE: the Utopia reviewed here is the 2020 Premium Accessories version, which retails for $4,400. Standard Utopia includes a different cable and omits the case.

Sources and Music Used in Listening Tests

The Amplifier/DACs used in this review were the SPL Phonitor XE (with built-in DAC), Grace Design SDAC + Topping A90, and the JDS Labs Element II connected via USB to my desktop computer. For the listening tests I used music from a wide variety of genres including Rock, Jazz, Classical, Acoustic, Hip-Hop, and latin. I played tracks from my own FLAC library as well as from Qobuz streaming service played via Roon (exclusive mode).

Packaging and Accessories

The Utopia’s packaging has recently been updated and it now resembles that of the Stellia, with a slide-off top cover that’s wrapped in pleather, albeit in black to more closely match the Utopia’s aesthetic design.

After sliding off the top cover, you are greeted with the Utopia in a black and gray Focal hardshell case, as well as a pleather-wrapped fold-out box which contains a 3m, 4pin-balanced XLR cable and a wallet with the Utopia’s documentation. Worth mentioning is that the Utopia also includes a 1.2m, 3.5mm cable with a thread-on ¼” adapter.

I feel like I say this everytime I review a Focal product, but unfortunately, until they give me a reason to stop saying it I will note: the included cables, despite looking nice, are really, really bad. They’re extremely stiff and I find them awkward even for desktop use, so purchasing an after-market cable is highly encouraged.

Build and Comfort

As is to be expected from a Focal headphone, the Utopia’s build is simply fantastic.

Its design is a blend of outstanding material work and craftsmanship, with the result being a headphone that feels and looks the part. Unless you take into account the cables, there is no component of this headphone’s build that I can flaw; it’s remarkably well put-together and it looks gorgeous with its sporty but elegant look.

For comfort, the Utopia isn’t the greatest I’ve tried, but I’d still say that it’s a pretty easy wear. Its 490g is definitely a little on the heavier side, but I find that the headband, the pads, and clamp force help in evenly distributing the weight, making it an unlikely source of fatigue. That being said, though, the inner area of the pads makes for a snug fit and I do occasionally feel my ears touching the inner sides of the pads, which could be discomforting for some users. Still, I had no issues wearing the Utopia for several-hours-long listening sessions.

Sound

The Utopia, which was the first headphone released by Focal, immediately rose to prominence for its noteworthy performance. Since its introduction, the sonic experience it delivers has been met with great acclaim, with many listeners going as far as calling it the world’s best headphone.

First Impressions

Upon my first listen, the Utopia stunned me with its clear, deep, and musical presentation. Its enjoyable tonality is one that I think leans towards being neutral-warm with a linear bass response, present mids and well-tempered, airy highs. It was also distinctly fast and energetic in its presentation, with outstanding low-end control and snappy transients. There were, however, some frequency-response-related quirks that stood out to me, which affected the headphone’s timbre, and I will be discussing those briefly.

Bass

The Utopia’s bass response is tight, and it has an exceptional ability for texturing low tones. For extension, it has an almost perfectly linear response down to 20hz with little to no roll-off that I could hear, which lends the bass region a great sense of depth and allows it to surface the rumble of the lowest sub bass frequencies. The one comment I would make about the Utopia’s bass is that, for my tastes and preferences, it’s a little lean under 115hz and I think that it could benefit from either an EQ bass upshelf or from an analog bass boost if you’re using an amp that has one available. Nonetheless, the bass response here is fantastic; it’s remarkably nimble, it’s deep and it’s honestly the most detailed bass I’ve heard on a dynamic driver headphone.

Mids

The midrange on the Utopia is where the headphone can be a little interesting. In the lower midrange, from 300hz-1000hz, it has an even response that adequately reproduces fundamental tones and gives instruments a rich body. Then at around 1500hz, though, the Utopia has a fairly significant bump of roughly 4dB.

I’ve heard a similar peak in that region on almost all the Focal headphones I’ve tried, but it felt particularly more pronounced on the Utopia and it made the midrange come through with a little bit of a stuffy timbre for me. Listening to vocal tracks, they had the tendency to sound slightly nasally and when I listened to–for example–instrumental classical guitar pieces I found that they could sound a bit boxier than I expected. Mind you, this was extremely subtle, but for listeners who are sensitive to tonal and timbral changes, this is definitely worth noting.

One last thing I noticed was that 3K was ever so slightly forward. It didn’t make the upper midrange come through as harsh, but it could occasionally sound just a little “shouty.”

Highs

In the treble region, the Utopia is pretty smooth, and its balance leans a little towards the warmer side. Nonetheless, it’s got ample energy between 8K-10K, which nuances instrument and vocal overtones whilst also adding a satisfying bite to the strikes of percussive instruments. Additionally, the Utopia has some nice extension into the upper treble region, lending it some nice air qualities above 10K. The only deviation I heard in this region, really, was a small peak at 6K, which introduced some minor glare and the slightest bit of low treble sibilance. Overall, though, the treble here was very nicely tonally defined, it never became fatiguing, and it had well-presented overtones and harmonics.

Resolution

Detail retrieval and overall sense of Clarity is, undoubtedly, where the Utopia shines brightest. In all registers of the frequency response the Utopia is transparent, stable and truly exceptional when it comes to texturing instrument and vocal tones. The musical image that the Utopia paints is a pristine and realistic one that allows you to simply get lost in the music. In this regard, the Utopia is the best performer I’ve listened to thus far, and it eclipses the performance of my HD 800S and Vérité Closed by a surprising margin.

Soundstage, Imaging, and Layering

The Utopia’s spatial presentation is very intimate, but it has great depth and directional accuracy. Its soundstage is definitely one that I’d say feels very forward, not unlike that of the Focal Clear or the Sennheiser HD 600-series headphones. The Utopia’s imaging, though, is immaculate, and it perfectly traces the location from which sound originates; a quality which enhances the headphone’s ability to replicate the recording environment. Then there is the Utopia’s layering, which rivals some of the best I’ve heard from planar-magnetic headphones like the Arya. It’s adept at separating different instrument and vocal lines, which makes it incredibly easy to look into the music and focus on any one track, and it does all of it whilst remaining cohesive and highly musical.

Dynamics

If there is one quality which I would say all Focal headphones excel at, it’s dynamics, and the Utopia is no exception. In the lows, the Utopia hits with great authority, and it delivers a very satisfying sense of punch and slam. In the upper registers, the Utopia’s microdynamics recreate the tactility and impact that really brings out the energy behind various instruments. For example, the tension behind guitar strings has an adequate weight and snap to it, pianos have a nice attack that expresses the pressure with which keys are played, and percussive instruments have well-defined strike. The result of this highly-excursive quality is that the Utopia makes for one of the most engaging and lively listening experiences, which also helps in more realistically delineating the way in which music is performed.

EQ

Right out of the box the Utopia has an outstanding tuning, and one that I think most will easily find highly-enjoyable without EQ. Still, I like to tweak it very slightly just to bring it closer to my tastes and preferences. I like to add a bass shelf under 100hz to round out the bass a bit more and get more rumble out of the subbass region. I also like to make some adjustments to those upper midrange bumps, to make the timbre feel, for me, more natural. If you;d like to try out my preset for the Utopia, these are the settings I used:

Low Shelf at 100hz, +3dB Q of 0.7

Peak at 1500hz, -4dB Q of 2

Peak at 3000hz, -3dB Q of 4

Peak at 6000hz, -3dB Q of 6

Conclusion

The Focal Utopia very rapidly rose to the top echelon of the headphone world, and after having the opportunity to listen to it for myself it’s very easy to understand why it’s held in such high esteem.

I think it’s not particularly egregious to say that the Utopia achieves the most excellent technical performance of any dynamic driver headphone. It’s incredibly fast, tuneful, and its ability to texture and nuance musical passages is somehow on a different level from anything else I’ve experienced. Its price tag of nearly $4,000 is hard to swallow, but if what you’re looking for is the very best of what dynamic driver headphones have to offer, then look no further than the Utopia.

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