Good luck with the 14,283 posts on head-fi!
Joking aside, the 2020 posts on the thread are far fewer in number and from what I can see of the one post (a photo), the headband is different (a variation on the Deva’s, it seems). The advertising blurb on HiFiMan’s website says it’s just the headband that’s different; same drivers.
Do. you ever go on reddit or other forums and share these? I think a lot of the “noobs” on reddit would really benefit from reading these.
I did post one but I’m not the type that wants to constantly deal with reddit commentary. I do have a reddit account, but my main account is here for a good reason. This forum is relatively open minded and respectful even when opinions differ. The signal to noise ratio is higher too.
Honestly it was a big deal for me to even post them here. Maybe as I get better at it and my confidence continues to rise I’ll attempt to expand my audience but for now I do this for fun, not profit.
Yeah, that makes sense. I didn’t think about that even though it is really obvious 
This forum is definitely better than most. I am also here because of the better “signal to noise ratio” and understand what you are saying. I get that this is for fun and never meant to imply doing this for profit. Keep doing what you are doing. 
Usually I would post my reviews, even if they are of low priced items, in the corresponding category and would post the full review on this site, not just a link to a blog.
However, in the case of the review I just published of the Samson SR850, I am not even going to waste the headphones.com bandwidth.
Therefore, if anyone wants to read a short review about what is probably the worst headphone that I have tried so far, you can find it here:
That good, huh? Hehe.
Measurements made to an IEC standard are rarely wrong in my experience. But that is just tonal balance, and there’s more to headphone sound we can’t put numbers on right now than just at what frequency that treble peak is.
I think that’s a healthy way of looking at it. Something I’m learning while building headphones is that stuff that I perceive as fairly dramatic sound changes shows up as only a few dB change in a graph, and I can’t always predict what I’ll measure based on what I hear. I think that’s less of a knock on measurements and more of a knock on my brain for not being able to fully translate pictures into sound. I think some people in the 60s experimented with stuff that helps there, but I’m not sure…
A few dB is very noticeable 
There’s not much to work with between the air pressure/whisper range and the pain/deafness on the dB scale. Headphones basically operate between 60 and 90 dB, so a few dB represents a substantial percentage of the usable range.
Truth.
Even the most extreme (self-described) objectivist has to make totally subjective judgements about what “objective” measurements are important, and how important each of the measures are, in proportion to all the measures that are available. And if it’s potentially worthwhile to gather more measures than the ones at hand.
What I have seen often, in many settings, is that objectivists will devise some elaborate scoring system to weigh and combine all the measures. And then when they apply it to the data, they question or disagree with the products (/choices/whatever) that come up at the top of the list. So they go back and CHANGE THE WEIGHTINGS, until the “objective scoring” agrees with the subjective scoring their brains had already done. Edit: I do this too.
Data is important, and when available should always influence decision-making, but decision-making is inherently subjective in many ways. (For one thing, data is historic, and decision-making is about the expected future. In most contexts, there’s a gap between those two viewpoints.)
Many people are subconsciously uncomfortable with that reality. A veneer of plausible “objectivity” allows us to some degree to avoid accepting personal responsibility for the (actually) subjective decisions we make.
Comfort with data-influenced subjectivity is really the Goldilocks place to be.
That’s a really interesting point. But doesn’t it conflate what is mathematically significant on a measurement scale with what is significant to human hearing? I think to understand the significance of that fact you brought up we’d have to really understand the units of the measurement scale. Basically we’d need to understand how differences in DB relate to how we perceive the changes in sound. Which is pretty much right back where we started.
Yes, absolutely. I was responding to “only a few dB.” Given psychoacoustic research, there’s a unit of measure known as the just-noticeable difference (JND), and this varies per each human sense. Unique to vision, hearing, weight, electric shock, etc. In audio, this has been measured to vary by frequency and volume in humans (i.e., norming to find averages across a large population).
All of human perception has evolved to meet environmental needs, and the rules are pretty random to human history. However, perceptual standards have been the subject of long-term research (i.e., the first branch of research psychology) as differences between people interfere with a wide range of military, commercial, and industrial tasks.
Sweet! More to learn! 
In other news, I guess this happened.
I guess this clears the way for someone to make HE6 knockoffs. Fang can’t get upset about that, right? Turnabout is fair play.
I’ve said this elsewhere, but the best thing to come of this would be for Sony to release a replacement for the MDR-R10 and crush this sad knock off. Let’s hope that happens.
Monoprice has entered the chat 
I can’t really say I’m up on things regarding these and the Sony’s but, based on the response in various places, it doesn’t sound like this was a good move by the company. I’m curious to see how things unfold from here.
Thats just an awful product video. Questionable music, jittery video, the random appearance of a phantom hand…
It looks like plastic and pleather. Whats the $ on this. Rumours are that it’s over 1K and that its dynamic and not planar. The little BT attachment dongle type gadget, Im assuming thats what it is as I was freaked out by the phantom hand and my reality shifted, is about the only interesting thing about it from just a conceptual perspective.
In USD, $1,240 for dynamic driver version and $4,850 for planar driver version.
I was just reading the SBAF thread about this one, funny stuff. Makes this seem like an even more ridiculous offering at ridiculous pricing. SMH. It is SBAF so the tone is what it is, it’s SBAF.