I’m not a “member” of SBAF because of the ‘tone’. So many angry and unhappy people there that love to 
on peoples opinions if they’re not in alignment with their own. It seems like if it’s not Schiit/ZMF/or Tube amps it’s garbage.
I’m glad this forum isn’t like that.
100 and also not a member, although there does tend to be some informative content if you search and filter for the noise.
Definitely. There’s some great resources there, it’s just hard sometimes trying to filter out the nonsense and get to the good information. 
In their defense (not that they need it), SBAF has strict expectations from new and existing members, and actively emphasize that they aren’t a “public” site. It’s more like a closed society that the public has some access to. People who don’t bother to pick up on that and go in expecting a Reddit or ASR kind of environment are quickly and bluntly informed otherwise.
It’s like a Harley Davidson biker bar. You don’t just ride up on a Vespa, play Brittany Spears on the juke box, and demand vegan food from the kitchen, then complain loudly that the members are rude and roudy. You will quickly learn you’re in the wrong place if you do.
With that said, I’ve been put off by the quick-to-humiliate strangers and abusive attitude the mods have had in the last year or so, and have stopped participating in 95% of the threads there myself. I’m just there to keep in contact with a few close friends, and that’s about it. The people there, good stuff. The mods… I could do without.
There’s some genius level audio folks there though. Just got to figure out who they are and you’re fine.
Agreed. There a very insular nature to it. I lurk and that’s about it. There are times I thought about signing up to ask a question but you never know if they’re gonna jump on you for minor crap so I try to figure stuff out on my own or ask here.
If you sign up, just post in the new member thread first. Don’t start a new thread about anything until you get the lay of the land. Ask questions before you start giving opinions. Stay out of the political / public shaming threads. Be nice. That’s basically my SBAF survival guide.
Those are all good tips for SBAF survival but the fact that you need a survival guide… didn’t mean to divert to SBAF talk, just wanted people to be aware of its nature, if unfamiliar, before they read the thread I linked to.
Yeah, we should get back to bashing HiFiMan. That’s more fun.
It is also noteworthy that Jason Schiit and Donald North engage there, as well as ZMF sponsored meets.
Yes but have they YouTubed with Zach and Bevin like @TylersEclectic and @Resolve?
I’ll stop now.
Back in the day, I knew of some guys who’d go into scary pubs in town on Saturday afternoons; one of them would quietly go and feed a bunch of cash into the jukebox to play one song over and over again, and then they’d see how long they could stick around before having to leg it. The song?
(It sounds awesome on the Susvara 
)
Great point. And that shall be the last word. I’m out.
I made it 34 seconds into that song before I felt the need to break a pool que over someone’s head.
Your friends must be very brave.
Especially maddening on a Wednesday.
I think their record was the beginning of the third time. They were fast runners.
When I’ve interacted with the few MC members and people from similar “organizations” that I’ve known, I’m well aware that I’m engaging criminals and certain behavior/personality traits will be exhibited. That’s very different than a bunch of pretentious audio nerds hiding behind a keyboard, but I think I get what you’re saying.
It’s uneccesary and for me, unacceptable. People like that can ingest a satchel of Richards… 
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the ZMF Atticus as a go-to for bassy music over a year. Not a harman tuning at all. Just like them a lot. They’re also closed back but definitely don’t have a closed in feeling.
Here are some suggestions for open-back with bass: ZMF Aeolus with warmer pads, Focal Elex, Audeze LCD-2C, Argon MK3,
Thanks for providing color that Dave will find useful. This is a good discussion as there are different flavors of a bassy headphone: sub-bass, mid-bass, punch and slam, extension without quantity, speed and control, detail vs quantity, etc.
It can be a challenge responding to a request for bass, where one person’s warm can be another person’s neutral.
I was intending to suggest open-back options - in addition to the closed Atticus, which I do think should be in the conversation - in the stated price range that have some bass signature, whether it be the Elex’s punch and slam, or the LCD-2C’s extension over quantity.
I thought that the Argon MK3s were semi-open? Even if closed, they probably should be in the conversation similar to the Atticus.
A discussion of open-back bass might also include Audio Technica, such as the ATH-AD1000X.