I also think the big elephant in the room that was also in the article I read is that Spotify will only be 16 bit, CD quality. So I don’t think they will be on par for the quality of sound regardless for hi-res unless you are using a chord up scaler.
I am all streaming right now, or Vinyl so Roon is pretty solid for me. I should have Matrix Audio Streamers/DACs that are Certified Roon Endpoints in every listening room by next week, besides my two-channel room where I am using a NAD streamer Certified Roon endpoint with Dirac.
It is kinda crazy to think how far I have gone to change my entire system in my house all based around ROON!!! Pretty much every DAC is now going up for sale or being traded out. So I agree I am not changing anything for Spotify, they are decent for when I work out or maybe driving in the truck but if the service or device doesn’t implement with Roon it is not for my personal ownership or subscription to the service at this point.
I am glad I listened to you and @ProfFalkin about the amazing strengths of Roon, it is a music lover streaming dream. I just wish honestly Qobuz would up its North America Catalog so I could dump Tidal. Hopefully in the future.
I haven’t seen one @mfadio but if they had the same library size as their competitors it would likely be the only service I would subscribe too. Although now that I think about it, I do enjoy the music video features on Tidal’s android TV app with my Sony XBR. My daughter and I like to watch and listen to them. However Qobuz is my favorite for overall quality and not having silly proprietary software (MQA).
All good points. Like you, I have a large collection of Lossless files and Spotify definitely does not cater to that at all. Roon is a much better app for integration of everything and I would never trade it for just Spotify, but Spotify has the best ecosystem of apps and features if you want to just stream. Maybe not so much Qobuz or Tidal, but apple will definitely need to go to lossless for Apple Music to compete with Spotify I think.
Oh, the Facebook thing is that you can link Spotify to your Facebook so you can see what all your friends are playing. In the beginning up until a couple years ago you had to sign up for Spotify using your Facebook account. Then they gave you a way to sign up just using your e-mail, but they made it very complicated and you could not do it in the app. You also had to make sure to dig into settings and turn off the default options that would show what you were playing on your Facebook profile. It made a lot of people mad
I’ve heard the exact opposite re: sound quality from Amazon HD vs other streaming services. They upsample everything, at last the last time I used it. Read an interesting article by a fellow who analyzed some of their tracks and declared them not Hi Res based on the spectral analysis.
Just got Roon for the first time myself. I know a lot of people aren’t happy about the changes, but I enjoy the 1.8 updates as a new user. everything is so clean and organized, and I love being able to switch seamlessly between Tidal and Qobuz.
Nope. Every time I listen to any track on Amazon HD it forces a set sample and bit rate. There are many discussions of this issue on various forums. Unless they have changed how their software works.
My DAC isn’t “set” to a fixed anything-it changes based on the source file. All I can say is every track on every album I’ve ever played, either on my desktop, my phone, my main system or my R5 on Amazon Music HD plays at 192 kHz.
Trolling? My feelings are hurt. Just because you don’t believe what I’m purporting doesn’t negate its truth or worth. I’m not the only person who has noted this. I don’t know why this is so but it is. Any streaming service whose files all are sent out 192 k isn’t bit perfect, nor does that build confidence that the music I hear is “as the artist intended”. Thanks but I’ll stick with Qobuz.
@NickZ and @Interceptor69 I think you are both agreeing that qobuz is bit perfect and Amazon simply plays at the setting of the DAC. Let’s try to be cool to each other and respect opinions. Much love guys
I was reading this and was wondering, y’all are not saying no dacs are capable of upsampling ? if that’s the case, my Lumin DAC/Streamer can upsample, even upsample a PCM file to DSD128. UPsample a 44.1 file to 176.4 if I chose that option. Its all built into the Lumin amp.