The VC are lethal on poorly mastered tracks. Ive mentioned this a few times over on Head-Fi. Santana is one of my favorite musicians but he really has dropped the ball on many albums. Steely Dan,on the other hand,whom im not a huge fan of,have some of the best recorded and mastered albums Ive ever heard.
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My whole VC review compares the two.
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I know, I’ve watched it 
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So the Suede options are the Universe Suede (have the Perf ones on the VO currently) or the Autuer Suede.
Anyone compared them? Didn’t seem them in Torq’s review and measurements? Might be blind.
Anyone rocking the Hybrids or the Universe Suede on the VC?
Once you go suede on your face, can’t go back.
Currently listening to VC with the Universe Leathers. Have no solid suedes.
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I have the hybrids but I prefer the stock pads… will have to look into getting the solid suede ones!
Prefer the sound or the comfort?
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And they are significantly bulkier than the VO. The pads seem wider and then the cups stick out a lot more.
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Comfort with the suedes is unmatched. But, I prefer the sound of the stock pads. I have not heard the Suede unperf though so… take that into account. I prefer the suede perf on my Aeolus and I liked it on the Verite Open, but switched back to the Universe perf lamb with my Opens
Yeah. It’s hard. They cost me $120 a set and take 3-4 weeks to get here. So isn’t an easy sort of thing.
I have the Universe Perf Suede on the VO. It probably does smooth it a touch, but the comfort for me goes way up.
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Its hard to get a proper feel, as the VC has leathers on, and I’m all about the micro suede. But I think the VO still edging it for me. Hits just as hard and deep too.
Not much in it though really. I mean the VC is freakin’ impressive for a closed can.
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Yeah, that is why I recommended going with Aesthetics and need, over sound preference as they are both sooo close… the VC is just super impressive because
a) it sounds fantastic for a closed back
b) it looks gorgeous (let’s be real they both do)
c) calms the beast within 
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I know this has been said before, but oh my goodness pads make a difference. I really enjoyed the Universe Lambskin nonperf (default) for a while, and the sheer heft and slam quality was addictive. But somehow I found myself wanting more room to breathe (figuratively).
Boy do the Auteur pads (Lamb-nonperf) open things up. The bass is still plenty for me, and I can always add a slight bump at 15 hz with a wide Q if I want. These pads tone down the slam and bass heft, while sweetening the mids and widening the stage.
Turns out this is exactly what I needed. Every song I put on now sounds more… Correct? Musical? Euphonic? Like I am able to latch on to the feel and emotion of every song much better. And I purposely jumped among a selection of completely different songs, and every single one did its thing superbly.
My jumps were wild, like… Airy / punchy Indian Film music -> Russell Gunn Jazz -> Take the Power Back -> Muddy Waters -> Chocolate Chip Trip -> Once Upon Another Time (Live) by Sara Bareilles. Every single song compelled me to experience it through to the end.
To top it off, the Auteur pads are much more comfortable for me.
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Re pads, then the suede ones are just great when talking comfort and then combined with a suede headband strap, I couldn’t ask for more re comfort. ZMF cans are not light, but it doesn’t matter as they fit perfectly also for hours.
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Question: What does the term “lush” mean from an audiophile point of view, or at least how are people using it as a descriptor?
I have heard it used to describe the Verite sound and I have a notion of what I think that sounds like but was wondering if anyone can break it down. Vague audiophile terminology is alway welcome 
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I have always just understood that to mean a tastefully emphasized mid-range and slightly elevated upper bass. That way, it sounds a touch warmer in tone and evokes a feeling of being wrapped in a blanket with sound… Hence lush. Go too far in this direction, and you end up with descriptors like “dark” and “veiled”, which I felt with the HD6XX, since I prefer a slightly brighter tone.
Others may describe it differently, though.
Lush: very rich and providing great sensory pleasure.
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Does rich mean tonal weight (as in lower frequencies) in your definition?
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Rich: full and pleasant
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Chocolate…
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