Empire Ears Odin - Official Thread

If we’re JUST talking about resolution/detail and clarity, overall, I’d say there’s not much in it either way.

Though this depends on where in the frequency spectrum you’re comparing; if you’re talking sub-bass and lower-bass registers, then the higher bass levels on the Odin make it easier to hear details and texture vs. the other three, even if they’re not necessarily resolving it better.

Extreme treble detail slightly favors the Odin, too, but to a lesser degree - and there’s not much content at those frequencies in the first place.

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it gets absolute top level perfomance
do you think odin took the best quality from legend x (bass), zeus ( mids) and wraith (treble)

I think Odin does better than that.

I did not like the bass on the Legend X … too high in level and lacked control to the point I felt it was almost flabby. Timbre and texture is more natural/realistic than the Zeus (I had the Zeus XRA for a couple of years), even in the mids. And the treble is more present, and smoother, than the Wraith, which I felt lacked proper treble energy.

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it’s kind of you to give us your feedback. it helps me in choosing iems according to my preferences

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I got my odins yesterday and I can definitely attest to the bass extension. I wasn’t super sure about the presentation at first as I always use sennheiser IE80 tips that force the IEMs to be at a distant from my eardrums, but switching to foam comply tips which let the nozzle reach a little deeper made a night and day difference. Before I could have easily preferred the Fourte but tip rolling has changed my mind.

I’m not as poetic as @Torq and I admit it’s more difficult for me to notice nuances in FR but so far these are phenomenal. Bass feels so accurate, it’s the Legend X bass family but not out of control, but instead is behaved and domesticated. These are my first electrostatic containing IEMs and the treble reach is crystal clear compared to the smoother u12t. Sibilance is rare or doesn’t occur at all compared to the Fourte, I did however experience more sibilance with the first tips I tried. As with any TOTL IEMs if sound isn’t as you expected, try different tips.

My source is the FiiO Q5S in both usb DAC mode and Bluetooth aptx.

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Just finished doing a review of the excellent Empire Ears Odin. Check it out here:

Here’s the video review:

For anyone wondering, here are the measurements done on the GRAS RA0402:

Channel matching:

And a comparison with the much less expensive but also excellent Thieaudio Monarch:

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Nice review Andrew. Do you have the FR with your custom target?

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I’m still working on a target for IEMs, but this gets pretty close to that. IEM targets are different from over-ear headphone targets because you don’t have to deal with the pinna flange (the ironically named ‘pinna gain’ from the IEM community actually doesn’t involve the pinna whatsoever, but rather ear canal and ear drum effects).

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Ahh, right on. That makes sense.

Thank you.

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Well, the hype beast has finally arrived, and I have to say…wow, it’s pretty damn good. Obligatory disclaimer that these are first impressions and are subject to change as I put more time into my evaluation of the Odin.

Empire Ears has never struggled to bestow upon their IEMs the ever-elusive “intangibles,” and the Odin bears no exception. Positional cues are rendered to an extremely high degree, rivaling - if not surpassing - my benchmark, the 64 Audio U12t. As a whole, imaging encroaches on breaking the “walls” of the stage, and there’s ample center image diffusal despite the absence of a dip (notably, the opposite) to the upper-midrange. This is a likely example of imaging and “depth” being much more than just a product of frequency response. Sheer resolution is also nothing short of excellent, no doubt partly in due to the upper-midrange tilt.

And yes, the polarizing midrange. Well…I really don’t think it’s that bad. It’s poking the hornet’s nest, but not at the expense of outright sibilance. The midrange suffers from a slight lack of weight and comes off a tad unnaturally bright, but a lot of the edgy transient behavior that the EE Hero exhibited has also been cleaned up. Treble is smooth if not lacking extension in the utmost highest frequencies; admittedly, I wouldn’t have called it if I didn’t have a FR graph to go off of. And really, “smooth” is an apt descriptor for the Odin. It is a very cohesive IEM, that is to say well-rounded, indeed.

Now for the bad parts:

  • Empire Ear’s subwoofer, the W9+, has always been distinctive to me for its bombastic slam - it always felt like it was almost trying too hard. Well, the Odin’s tuning neuters this trait and then some, relegating it to the opposite end of the spectrum: Not necessarily lacking, but just… there , and unremarkable if not well-done.
  • Dynamic contrast seems somewhat lacking. The transitions are very quick, yes, but the Odin fails to scale as low as the 64 Audio U12t to my ears.
  • I could see the Odin being fatiguing. It’s a smooth IEM, which the lack of dynamic contrast ironically pays compliment to; however, the upper-midrange tilt borders hot for my tastes.

While the Odin certainly isn’t lacking in that “wow” factor, I can already tell - to a good extent - that it’s not an IEM that meets my sonic preferences. At the IEM “summit” as I like to call it, I think it mostly comes down to a matter of tonal preference; unfortunately, the Odin doesn’t hit mine as close as I’d like.

But I have no trouble asserting that the Odin is a top-tier IEM, one that stands at this summit. In my eyes, a “top-tier” IEM is not necessarily a reflection of price - after all, there’s no shortage of flagship IEMs that sound like, well, garbage (in my humble opinion) - but rather, a reflection of an IEM’s sound quality on its own merit. So overall, a job very well done by Empire Ears. They seem to have taken the shortcomings of the Wraith (which were quite a few to say the least) to heart and knocked it as close to out of the ballpark as possible.

As crappy as 2020’s been, it’s been a great year for the IEM world, and the Odin stands as one of the highlights.

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Thanks for the great review. I’m actually considering the Odins but have not had the opportunity to test them out. I did try out VE Erlkonigs recently on an A&K2000 with Tidal. My taste in music is quite varied depending on mood…can be R&B, Rap, Pop, Classical, etc. When I was listening to the Erlkonigs there was something lacking in faster paced music with lots of bass and/or instruments clashing together in the background. It sounded a bit muddled. Would the Odins be better in this area?

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Unfortunately I haven’t heard that one so I can’t comment. But, the Odin does do a good job of keeping everything controlled and articulate.

Hi Andrew,

Can you comment on the STAX SR-009s? I was listening to it paired with a Viva Egoista STX amp and Playback MPD-8 DAC. As I found with the Erlkonig IEMs some of the background instruments/sounds sounded a bit muddled (when multiple things playing at same time mixed in with some electronic keys) on music with more bass and faster tempo. Every other type of music sounded pretty good. Are the STAXs not suited for this type of music or does it have to do with some of the equipment I’m using or does there need to be an adjustment in settings when listening to this type of music? I just feel that if I have to shell out that much money for a pair of headphones and related equipment things should sound a little better. Or can you recommend another pair of headphones and equipment setup?

Thanks again for your help. I’m completely lost as I’ve never dabbled in headphones before. I used to buy components to pair with my floor standing speakers. However I found it more and more difficult to enjoy them with kids running around. I thought the next best thing would be to invest in some high quality headphones and IEMs. That’s how I came across your videos and website.

Best,

Leon

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I’m looking to invest in a pair of Odin IEMs for when I’m traveling. Anyone have any recommendations for best portable DAC/Amp/DAP to go along with it? My listening range is broad, but I can’t compromise on tightness and clarity of bass if it calls for it. I’ve listened to IEMs using the A&K SP2000 and it’s not bad, but wondering if there are other recommendations. Thanks.

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Either Cayiin N6ii or if your feeling particularly rich the Cayiin N8.

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@Precogvision latest IEM review… the new “King” of IEMs? Find out in this week’s edition of “Precogvision”!

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I’ll check them out, thanks for the recommendations!

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I’ve been using the Odin last couple nights laying down in bed. It’s immediate top tier for me. This thing does a lot right and very little wrong (price, and just slightly a bit too forward in the 1-2KHz range) but man its ultra smooth and resolution and imaging is top notch. It does a lot of what I think the Vision Ears IEMs do but with a more neutral and lean sound signature, which is pretty fantastic. Buttery smooth presentation but with all the resolution and tightness I’d ever want.

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Is there a headphones.com loaner unit going around? Or anywhere else where we can sign up in a loaner? Really interested in trying&reviewing these.

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I Have seriously been contemplating getting the Odin’s, but I am torn between those and the MEST’s and was wondering if anyone here could help me decide. A little backround info, I got the Atlas’s a little over a year ago and are the only TOTL earphones I have and love the huge bass and slam that those serve up, perfect for EDM and pop/hiphop. Since then though, I feel like I am missing something, something is lacking. Clarity and space is a word that comes to mind especially for vocals in other genres I love like classic rock and alternative. I have heard great things about the MEST, but am not a fan of the 5k peak on the atlas, which the MEST’s seem to also have and skews voices in a peaky way I don’t like, but I have also heard that the ODIN’s can be cold and clinical at times which also scares me away from clicking buy since I still value musicality and “emotional engagement” in my music, nothing better than lying down and getting lost in a good track. I unfortunately cannot demo any of these, and was wondering which one would be the most complementary to my Atlas’s. Price aside, which one is the better performer? Any info would be a huge help, as i am getting burnt out on the endless research and indecision lol.

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