End of an Era

Because it is the end of the year, I did a little reflection about my interest in headphones.

It started in the early 90’s with a pair of AKG K1000 “earspeakers” from Definitive Audio in Seattle. I had a pretty sophisticated speaker setup as well, so these were just ancillary.
Then we “downsized” and the listening room (and home theater) were no longer available to me. Headphones became central to my listening enjoyment.

I joined Head-Fi ten year ago, and this forum about 5 years ago. During the last ten years I have purchased dozens of headphones, IEMs, tips, cables, dongles, amplifiers and DACs.
You might call it an obsession. This is not the first hobby that I have been so devoted to for such a long time. Earlier it was mechanical watches, ink pens, and Ancestry.com. Every one of these hobbies became an obsessive search for the best, most satisfying, most complete experience. Each one of them came to an end when I realized that I had satiated my curiosity and my desire.

I am feeling like that with my headphones quest. After all of the headphone and supporting equipment that I have purchased, I have landed on two favorites: Focal Utopia OG, and Raal Requisite SR1a (plus Focal Bathys and Apple AirPods 2 for mobile use). Don’t get me wrong, I still love great music, both live and recorded. And I still love Roon for cataloging and Parametric EQ.

I am so grateful to all of my fellow headphone aficionados for the wisdom, reviews and trials of new equipment. You have enabled the realization of my quest. I will continue to reap the benefits of my quest by listening to the finest music reproduction available.

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I hear that, and as someone similarly prone to going all the way down every rabbit hole I find, I congratulate you on finding the bottom of this rabbit hole and deciding you’ve found your endgame. On to a new passion project. :slight_smile: Happy new year!

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What was your ink-pen journey like? Do you collect, or actually write with them. I like ink pens, but they’re pens for goodness sakes. I want ones that write well and that let me vary the lines just a bit. Flex or stub nibs.

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:+1:

I went down this path about a month ago and I’m doing very well with it.

I’ve kept a handful of my equipment, namely the one that gives me the most emotion to the music.

Since then I’ve rediscovered an old love, namely cooking and baking.

You become very creative when you’re working in the kitchen and are supported by excellent quality music on your ears.

My wife and friends are currently enjoying the result to the full……

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:laughing:

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To chrisnyc75, Lothar_Wolf and pennstac: Thanks to each of you for the insights you have shared. The experiences you have shared have enriched my headphone journey immensely. I am grateful to you and to this forum.

I will continue to enjoy music every day with my headphone setup(s).

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That looks great! Save some for the rest of us. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Something tells me there won’t be any left for us. Bake another batch!

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Oh, I did that, with a nut-marzipan filling.

And how would they say in audiophile circles?

This:

& this:

End up in this:

This combination creates a very nice SYNERGY :joy:

I learned this from my wonderful wife, who, as a Japanese woman, introduced me to their wonderful food culture :pray:

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You’re baking ear pads?

I tried it, but something went wrong…….

I always hear this humming……

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@tmarshl
Thanks for this. Before you depart this ‘mortal coil’, do tell us why you found Utopia OG and SR1a end-game, and ALSO how it goes going forward after you ‘get off the bus’.

This past year I got closer to this when I FINALLY after much dithering acquired the Schiit Tyr monoblocks to use as speaker amps to drive Susvara OG (DAC is Yggdrasil OG, pre-amp is Freya+ with a variety of vintage tubes). When one finally gets ‘the SQ one was looking for’ it is indeed most satisfying, and the opportunity to roll tubes and headphones will (I hope) help reduce the frequency of recurrent upgraditis. But for me it’s always been about the ‘music experience’ - and the chain that can provide it.

My NY25 resolution is to ‘slow things down’. I am learning to solder and will have a go at building a DIY pre-amp and see where that leads. All the best with your new endeavors!

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That is a great question.

As in many cases, it is the whole line of hardware and software that creates a great sound system. I upgraded the Focal Utopia OG with a Transparent Ultra cable. I purchased a dCS Bartok DAC/AMP drive them. I then applied equilization via Roon Parametric EQ. These additions produced the most satisfying sound in the genres that I love the most: Piano Jazz, Vocal Jazz, Chamber Classical, Choral Classical and Symphonic.

After having started down this-rabbit hole with the AKG K1000 driven by the Nelson Pass First Watt F1, I was curious about the Ribbon Speakers found in the Raal Requisite SR1a. Again I used the DAC function of the dCS Bartok, but added the Raal HSA-1b amplifier which was purpose-made to drive the SR1a “Earfield Speakers”. I polished the result with the SR728 Silver Cable and equalization through Roon.

I use the Raal Requisite SR1a when I want to do “critical listening” where every nuance of the music is exposed in incredible detail. It takes my complete attention to listen to music reproduction with this level of detail. After a few hours, it can get tiring.

On the other hand, the Focal Utopia OG system is a great “middle-ground” solution in terms of checking all the boxes for long term enjoyment. I can listen for hours without fatigue.

These two systems make for a great headphone experience and my ultimate enjoyment of music. I will now focus on listening to recordings of the greatest music ever created.

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My journey is similar and I suspect there are many of us that have very enjoyably traversed the same rabbit holes.

Listened to R&B in the car with my mom in the 50’s (Yes, some years have accumulated on this still faithful and functional body and mind). Then in high school jazz on a primitive turntable. Then world music when living in Europe and Asia in the 70’s. Then “new age” electronica on my first “stereo system” when back in the US in the 80’s. Then in the 90’s my first real two channel system now long gone. Two channel kept upgrading till by 2010, I knew I had arrived when I could no longer listen to my system because the music kept distracting me. Then cash flow dwindled to the point I could no longer keep updating and upgrading (though I know exactly what I want if the funds were there!). By then I had added classical, especially string quartets, to the mix. Hence, the obvious . . . . . . .

Head-Fi! Where the price of entry is much less. IEMs led to portable dac/amp led to upgraded cables. (Yes I am one of those who clearly hear differences in cables, architecture, metals - I’m enjoying AU+CU+AG alloys, not plated/coated wires - big difference - in both head-fi and the two channel system, but that is another thread somewhere . . .) PEQ did the final IEM tuning. So what next? Sold 4oz of gold several months ago which is now sitting in front of me in the form of a DAC, a headphone amp and some ZMF headphones are on their way. The IEMs sound better than ever. Gold never sounded better. And I still get to experience audiophile delayed-gratification waiting for the ZMF cans. I have greatly enjoyed learning from our shared rabbit hole experiences. Thank you dear colleagues with the same wonderful affliction: Audiophilia Termanalis,
May this new be your best ever . . . .

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Staying involved in the community for too long, chasing the dragon endlessly, is a recipe for burnout. Knowing when you’ve found your joy and walking away to enjoy it in peace is a lesson we can all benefit from. :slight_smile: :v:

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So what would your cash no object fantasy 2 channel be? I find that my ears max out with speakers in the $50K range, so I’d be happy with Wilson Audio DAW, or maybe Eggleston Works Vigente (I’m seriously thinking Egglston Kiva’s or Harbeth 40.3 as an actual future move.)

I don’t know that I really need to upgrade my turntable past my upper entry level VPI, but I know I could do better with the electronics. Although that’s far less important than speakers…

I discovered IEM’s i.e the existence of budget IEM’s of the made in China and designed in China variety about a year ago. So late 2023 and the whole of 2024, was the year (approx) of :

  1. Far too much research on consumer and Hi-fi DACs, dongles, Headphone amps, and IEMs.

  2. The learning curve to buy the budget items from KZ/CCA and learning what good sounds like, now have a Zero 2 and an ARTTI T10.

  3. Prior to this, being snubbed on professional web sites like SoundOnSound.com, where they would cringe at the possibility of mixing on IEMs. And finding more information and understanding elsewhere, like here and on audiosciencereview. I’m relatively new here, and only came over after also discovering the measurement police on audiosciencereview, i.e struggling to find the right measurements to explain what I was hearing.

Yes here you have measurements but you accomodate non measurable opinions. Good.

My thinking is that audio technology is in waves, Every 5 years or so, there will be another incremental shift that will take transducer technology, one step further, so I think every year even if you are retired from the hobby, there will be more to upgrade to. Cos it does get better.

The headphones of 20 years ago, the HD 6XX’s gang, in my opinion, while their frequency responses may be somewhat oK, we are are in a new dispensation, with a race to the bottom, to eliminate distortion, resonances, and improve tunings, so that one barely needs any EQ, and the stock sound is good enough for casual listening.

I feel the same, that I’ll give things a break from purchasing, and try to buy just one more item a year, max two. The issue is - where is the joy? One or two devices that one knows well, optimises well, or a bunch that one buys hoping that each one solves the fundamental problem, but as I have learnt from the headphone U tube channel, we all hear differently, so no head based listening device will suit everyone. There is a level of personalisation needed to take a good listening device to stratospheric heights, based on EQ, crossfeed, proper pads/eartips, and proper placement and probably nothing more.

It’s similar to music, which is better to have a collection of music one knows and enjoys well, or to keep discovering. With music I came to the conclusion, I will never hear more than 1 millionth of the possible music released to date, so searching and discovering is a bit of a futile exercise. No harm in the occasional discovery, But have I done justice to ALL the music I have heard in the decades. I’ll never be able to listen to all the music I have already heard, it’s just too much. So in music, I’ve resolved to rather than go on an unending search, which will never be satisfied, cos there is too much out there, put more focus on enjoying the music and the artists I already know, and enjoy this well. Even this I will never be able to do justice too, cos with streaming, there is just far too much to be discovered, from what I already know and have heard.

I feel listening devices are the same. It is an endless search, there will always be on more speaker, headphone, IEM on the horizon, better in some ways, but I do not need that. Why? The purpose was to enjoy the music, not buy gear. The gear is only a means to an end. So the litmus test, is when one, as the OP said, gets to the point where the listening device, causes the music to become difficult to avoid. And the end goal is reached, when all I want to do is discover more of what was already in the music, I have already heard a thousand times. Which the more revealing technology now enables. Rediscovering music I already know, every single time I hear it. When the listening device is so good, that it reveals how good some music is, that one can listen to it over and over and over again, without getting bored, cos of the never ending layers of discovery, hearing things one never heard before, or hearing them far better than before.

Yes it’s fun to read about gear, enjoyable, like unpuzzling a riddle. And occasionally, no more than twice a year buy something affordable - $50 to $100 max total additional spend per year, on the hobby. Clearly in a world where the medium of streaming is more accessible, makes sense to carry our speakers with us - i.e IEMs and Headphones. Which sound even better than many speakers, especially as we do not have room acoustics to deal with, in head worn devices. A wonderful time to be alive.

But there is room for more. Excellent guides to help newcomers. There is a lot of information out there, much of it conflicting. Similar to trying to learn about health on Youtube, everyone is a doctor!, including my cat, who is allowed to give health advice. We have lost a lot of the curating that ye old magazines once did, and now its utter confusion. So many voices. Who does one listen to?

And there are so many products out there. So many. Once upon a time it was a simple choice - AG K701, Q701(The Quincy endorsed version), AKG K702, AKG K712, AKG K612, Sennheiser HD 600/650, SONY MDR 7506, and pretty much that was it, almost. Just get one. But now with 100’s of products out there, in IEM land, it’s a nightmare a bad dream. We need much better ways to sift through the madness and disinformation, so that the bad products and those making them, go out of business, and only the best survive.

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Well said. I agree with you, and congrats to @tmarshl on feeling like he’s reached a point of contentment and musical enjoyment.

Obviously not everyone’s end goal enjoyment is the same. For some it’s music, maybe a bit of retail therapy, hell, even online therapy of having people to agree or argue with.

With the current state of audio products and a lot of great guides on how to EQ, it’s actually easier and cheaper than ever for amazing sound quality that allows music to take center stage.

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100%, indeed, EQ, and in my case selecting the right crossfeed solution for each IEM, rather than assume one size fits all - in crossfeed, has been the major breakthrough. I thought my ARTTI T10’s were flawed, further to really detailed comparisons with a Zero 2. By accident I discovered, changing crossfeed solutions/settings brought the T10 back into pinpoint focus, very much like a camera lens.

The Zero 2 did not need much EQ, cos out of the box, its close to ideal, for me. The optimised with EQ and crossfeed, is better than the unrefined T10.

The T10 has been like a diamond in the rough, more rough edges, shouty high end, boomy bass, but once polished with the right tips, EQ and the right crossfeed settings, now shines through, like a true champion., back to a more resolving listen than the Zero 2, which was no slouch

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If it doesn’t sound good enough for casual listening without EQ, I won’t buy it. Unless, like the Audeze LCDi3 and LCDi4 it came with a cable that did the corrections.

My Rosson RAD-0 is fine without EQ. So is my ZMF Auteur Classic. Ditto the Nectarsound HIVE, And my GRADO RS1e with Beautiful Audio pads. Even my Hifiman HE-560. Don’t know about the Airpods 2, I don’t trust Apple not to apply EQ and not tell me. Heck, I rarely bother with EQ on the 6xx, unless the song wants it.

But speakers better? Yeah perhaps, but some damn good ones from the 1970s. The question becomes - how do you tune your wallet?

And Happy New Year!

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This reminds me of when I 1st discovered equalisation for speakers, in a room. Once known as Digital Room Correction. Wow, the possibility of improving a cheap set of speakers to sound like one which costs a lot more !!

Almost all my casual and critical listening, is desk bound, on a laptop. So I can put in as much effort to optimise the sound via software - EQ, stereo balance - to even out any hearing inequalities or variances in canal length or insertion depth of IEMs, and crossfeed in the audio path.

Pretty certain, cos of my use case. No matter how accurate or high end the headphone/IEM I owned, (or speakers), I’d still explore the potential to use further tools, to get as much more as possible from the head worn listening device, same way almost everyone seems to be doing today, with speakers., where DSP is almost a given, for any active speakers.

Happy 2025 to you and yours.

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