Headphone Cables/Builds w/ Pictures - DIY

Just for simplicity …

In MY modular cable implementation, the headphone end-connections are always balanced (i.e. 4-wire). I literally just don’t build them for headphones that only have a 3-pin connection, as the second you plug that into a balanced source you’ll short it.

All but one of the headphones I build adapters for are dual-entry, with entirely seperate +/- connections, and indeed sockets, for each driver, anyway, which makes all these concerns moot. Even though many use different connectors, some 2-pin, some 3-pin, some 4-pin, but they’re separated completely for each driver, and only carry +/- or +/GND signals to each driver.

It’s safe to then combine the - or GND connections on the amp end for a single-ended (TRS, or other 3-pin interface) connection. But it’s never safe to the do opposite.

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Yeah, since you didn’t bring up the worst case scenario of shorting the amp it confused me.
All straightened out now. Thanks a lot once again, @Torq, sorry for any truly stupid questions.

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Somehow this gave me a mental picture of a KZ ZS10 Pro with individual connectors for each driver so you could roll your own crossover and EQ on a per-driver basis.

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How are the TRS connectors on the headphone end wired to the 4 pin modular connector? R+ to ring and R- to sleeve on the right driver and L+ to tip and L- to sleeve on the left driver?

That depends entirely on the specific headphone in question as not all headphones that use TRS sockets wire them the same way.

They are usually identical for both left and right, rather than using the tip for + on one side and the ring for + on the other.

The Sony MDR-Z1R, for example, have the tip as +, the ring as - and the sleeve is only used for the shield (if you connect it at all). This is the same for both left and right drivers.

The Rosson Audio RAD-0 use the sleeve as -, and you can use either (or both) of the tip and ring for +. Again, this is the same on both left and right channels. Though the stock cable on mine actually has the left channel wired as T + S and the right as R + S, going to the TRS connector on the amplifier end.

Focal uses a TS (no ring) connector, which is wired as T+ and S-. Though I’ve seen a bunch of cables sold for these using a TRS connector (which I assume either doesn’t connect the ring at all, or connects it with the tip).

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Hm got it, thanks again.

Hi there, I am no DIY cable guy (alas!) … I “just” can listen to music :wink:
Now, I don’t know if this is the right place to ask, but I want to upgrade the short cable from my DAP to the portable amp, as well as from the amp to my headphones (Stellia).
I researched a bit and came to two materials UPOCC and PCOCC cables (the first from Neotech, the second from Oyaide) which is, I think, more or less the same treating of the copper cable but different marketing names.
Since my portable amp is the VorzAMP Duo II from Vorzüge, it would be obvious to buy this cable (since I also would get 25% off, it´s not THAT expensive, though it´s still expensive when considering the short length though) http://vorzuge.com/product/oyaide-audio-cable-and-connector/?currency=EUR

The other thing is the headphone cable: There are many guys who recommend this (not so expensive) seller of upocc cables, what do you think of him? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-Cables-UPOCC-High-End-Cable-for-Focal-Clear-Elear-Elegia-Elex-Stellia/143335831939

What do you in generally think of upocc or pcocc cables? Are these the same quality as yours @Torq or do you think it´s all humble bumble?

Thanks in advance for any comments and suggestions!

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Short version/answers first:

Neotech and Oyaide both make quality stuff.

There’s little technical/objective merit in worrying about these things for very short cable runs, so I’d buy whatever is reasonably priced and functionally convenient for the application.

Well, I’ve no experience with his products so I cannot comment there.

Reading the details on his cable there is at least one blatantly false claim (that the wire has no resistance), and most of the “theoretical” or “scientific” copy seems to have been lifted straight off the wire-manufacturer’s product pages:

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All I can say to that is “bullshit” … it absolutely has electrical resistance. If it didn’t we’d be talking about room-temperature super-conductors and this company wouldn’t be fannying about peddling wire to audiophiles …

Whether the presence of that claim is just down to lack of attention to detail, lack of understanding, or something less innocent I can’t say.

I use high-purity OCC wire in my own cable builds.

The raw wire might be.

But a cable is more than it’s raw wire.

These appear to be straight, unshielded, runs of wire which is about the simplest thing you can build (e.g. absolutely no noise/EM rejection/shielding). I very much doubt there will be an audible difference between those and the stock cables, and if there’s a measurable one I doubt a) that the seller has the equipment to tell (it’s very expensive and rather specialist) and b) I wouldn’t bet on it being better numbers than the Focal ones.

However, they will almost certainly be easier to live with than the stock Focal cables, which are are something of an ergonomic disaster.


I sell my cables on the basis of convenience (modularity), quality parts, and actual measurements. I don’t make specific claims about their sound*.

*Except in the case of the SR1a cable, where the frequency shaping circuit in the interface is sensitive to the impedance of the load and even fractions of an ohm shift the treble response measurably. But you need special equipment/techniques to measure resistances that small.

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Thank you very much for these informative answers! I think I´ll save some money and then come back to you, instead of contacting this random eBay seller :wink:

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I appreciate the vote of confidence, but just a word of caution … my cables are expensive.

They really only make sense if you want/need the modularity aspect and/or are feeding higher end-headphones. Otherwise the cable (or even the specific adapter) is often more expensive than a single headphone.

For example, if I sold a 6ft version of my best 4-pin XLR to Focal Utopia cable at just the cost of parts (so not including any labor for winding the cable or overall assembly etc. nor any other costs like shipping parts to me, sundries, wear and tear on tooling, accounting for warranty) and with no markup/profit in it at all, you’d be looking at $570 (or $460 for non-modular). The same cable for the other Focal headphones in the line up would comprise $460 in parts (or $350 for non-modular).

Of course I don’t sell build and sell things at cost.

I generally recommend Norne Audio for conventional cable alternatives. Trevor does beautiful work. Uses excellent parts. And his stuff is typically quite a bit less expensive than mine.

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I appreciate your openness. I‘ll consider that! Thanks again ( … and I‘ll save money) :wink:

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One other question: What about this “7N Super – OCC Copper” (or silver, gold etc.) like from Brimar (https://www.brimar.net/technology) … I have read here and there about this “7N” but am not understanding it very much I guess. Is it even “a step above” the “normal” OCC?

The 7N part is a reference to the purity percentage expressed as the number of nines of purity being claimed. “Two nines” (2N) would be 99% pure, “three nines” (3N) would be 99.9% pure, and so “7N” would be 99.99999% pure.

The standard for industrial copper wiring is 3N, and that’s generally what you’ll get if you go buy a bulk reel of non-specific copper wire somewhere. And, at least at an industrial level, I believe 4N is still the highest grade that’s actually certifiable (it may have changed).

Purity affects the overall metal density, which affects conductivity. Higher purity is ore conductive and a wave front will have a higher velocity factor across the charge carriers. The difference in conductivity between 2N and 6N copper is on the order of about 1%, where as 2N silver would be 6%.

In real terms, this matters more for a) very long runs of wire (e.g. transformers) and b) for cryogenic applications. The tiny change in impedance and velocity factor won’t even show up without very specialist, and expensive, test equipment, and maybe not even then.

Most of the best cables use what claims to be 6N copper (with silver it’s more commonly 4N). Whether that’s verifiable or not is questionable. But regardless that’s what tends to be used … as much as anything because successful marketing has made it something that is “expected” among audiophile cable buyers.

OCC is another thing. That’s about reducing/eliminating the internal crystalline structure of a conductor. You can see the results/differences in material cast this way under an optical microscope (though for small boundaries in “normal” castings it’s easier with an electron microscope, STM or field-ion scope).

Why is this interesting?

In any conductor, any boundary or junction causes reflections … i.e. a wave gets reflected back down the cable. That wave will interact with the primary signal causing additive and subtraction effects to the voltage on the line (it’s a complex deal to assess, with multiple factors … this will give you an idea).

This is measurable, and in fact there are commercial tools that do just that on a gross-level (e.g. to find breaks or iffy junctions) using something called “Time Domain Reflectometry”.

So, the vastly smaller number of crystals in the metal means fewer boundaries and fewer internal reflections. A true single-crystal conductor would only have reflections at the termination points of the cable. The audiophile interpretation of this is typically that all these internal reflections cause distortion, loss of detail, and so on. And, at a raw level, that’d be true. Whether the effect is audible or not is another matter entirely, but it’s certainly calculable and is a concern in the design of certain types of network and other signalling systems.


So, I use raw 6N OCC wire to build my cables.

And then I assemble multiple runs of that to give me the geometry (responsible for noise/EMI rejection) I want and to attain the effective wire gauge I want (which has a MUCH bigger affect on resistance than the purity of the conductor). Then I add shielding to it. Then the whole assembly is cryogenically processed (the theory is that this helps with the crystal structures in the non-OCC parts of the cable, such as the connectors). And finally I have it electron-beam irradiated, which improves the flexbility of the cable (which is beneficial for microphonics).

The cryogenic treatment is a batch process and adds almost nothing to the cost of the cable itself, and while I don’t necessarily think it makes an audible difference, its so cheap to do, and there are enough people that want it done, that there’s not a good reason not to.

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There should be awards for answers like yours! Thank you

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Do you find that OCC wire has an inherent directionality, and that this is also measurable at a gross level?

In short, no.

While there may be some physical artifacts, visible under a microscope, that arise through crystalline alignment from drawing the cable via OCC in a single direction and that are suggestive of the direction it was drawn in, I’m unaware of any theory or measurement that suggests electrical performance would be different in one direction vs. the other.

TDR works properly in both directions, for example. Resistance measurements don’t change.

However, some “directional” cables are directional because of how they are wired. Usually this is with shielded cables, where the shield is connected at the source end but not at the receiver. Thus you need to know which end of the cable is which, and an easy way to do this is to stick an arrow on the thing indicating the direction the signal is intended to flow (i.e. from source, to amplifier, and whatever other processing you might have in between).

But that has nothing to do with how the conductors involved behave in one direction vs. another.

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Given your knowledge in this area @Torq, may I add another question on exactly this topic that keeps puzzling me:
Some enthusiasts highly praise silver cables, while others perceive them as sounding too bright and harsh. Are there any measurable differences between copper and silver by design, as seems to be the case with conductivity? When using a top build for both, like your 6N OCC and a comparable top-shelf silver material, do they measure differently? And what influence on performance and sound (as in „a cable shouldn’t have any sound itself“) can that have?

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Silver wire, the basic stuff even (2N/3N) has lower resistance than 6N copper … and that’s definitely measurable.

We’re talking very small resistances to begin with, however. Low enough that you cannot reliably measure them with a standard multi-meter and either need a specialty instrument (a dedicated low-ohm meter) and/or special techniques.

To give you an example, a 1000 ft run of 6N copper wire at 24 gauge would have a resistance of about 25.5 Ω. In comparison, the same run in silver would be about 23 Ω. Of course if you increase the gauge of the copper wire to, say, 22 gauge, then its resistance for the same run would drop to about 16 Ω. And adding more runs of wire, drops it further (larger effective gauge).

Now, if you mean are there measurable differences in the frequency response of a copper vs. silver cable, when simply measuring the cable itself? Not at audio frequencies. And even up around 200 kHz, the differences are measured in small fractions of a dB (you’d have to hit at least 0.5 dB, in the most sensitive range of hearing, to have any chance of that being audible). Though the higher you go, the more severe they become.


It is worth noting that when dealing with dynamic transducers (i.e. something with a coil that acts as an inductor) then the impedance and the capacitance of the overall circuit can result in effects that interact with the coil that can affect response. In fact, this is done deliberately in crossovers to help mitigate the reactivity of the voice coil and keep response constant.

But the resistance and capacitance present in any normal cable are far too low to have any useful effect in this regard with normal headphone transducers.

You could specifically build such a thing into the cable, though it would only work properly for a specific driver/coil, but you’d need an actual capacitor and resistor to do it as the values present from the cable itself are far too small.


There are good reasons to buy some types of cable in the audio world. Special geometries, shielding and noise-rejection if you need it (electrically noisy environments, long cable runs). Appropriate gauge cabling when dealing with power (speaker and mains cables) and/or long cable runs.

And then there are both ergonomic and aesthetic concerns … i.e. cables that offer more flexibility or less mechanical noise/microphonics (anyone that’s used the stock Focal cables on the Elegia, Clear and Stellia are well aware of these two), length, design/aesthetics.

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Thank you so much @Torq !

I think that confirms my understanding that audible differences between silver and copper wires, just from the material used and not from different build / gauge / terminations etc., when used in headphone cables and component interconnects, and even tonearm cables (an area that I’m currently looking into seriously), although claimed frequently and sometimes almost religiously, are pretty improbable to downright nonexistent.

So adding to the last section of your statement, there are no good reasons to buy expensive fancy silver cables, for use with headphones or tonearms, neither for some superiority of its core material nor for any relevant parameters that would make an audible difference in a standard application.

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Oh, silver wiring on tonearms can be beneficial, especially with low-output moving coil cartridges (we’re talking micro-volts at minuscule currents). You need to keep the mass of the arm low, and not have the wire impeding the movement of the arm, so using thicker gauge wires is not very practical. While the difference with silver isn’t big, it’s one of those “every little bit helps” situations (same with ultra-high-frequency communications systems).

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