The Ultra Cheap IEM Thread

I wanted these so bad but they were huge :slightly_frowning_face:

You might consider some Koss Porta-Pro headphones. Not an IEM, but comfy and good sound for the price - in your range. Very portable, and probably much less ear fatigue than IEMs.

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To my ears ED16 are more neutral sounding and less details compared to ZS10 pro, but they are smaller in size and with a more “soft” shape. You’ll be trading sound quality for confort and, again, cable sucks for ED16.
I’ll will say YES to your ears getting used o IEM, give them some more time. Did you change the tips at all? Using the smaller ears tips could help in some way, also If you swap them for foam tips instead of the silicon ones included in the KZ’s .
For the reviews of the RevoNext QT5 I’ll say is closer to ZS10pro sound than ED16 and is better looking.
@pennstac suggestion of Koss Porta is a great choice to have in mind if you don’t care about sound leaking, be careful with the design you choose, some of them are hard to keep on while moving around .
There are great cables for the KZ’s ones all over Ali Express.

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I also saw great reviews about the TRN V80. Have you tried this pair?

Well if my ears will become more comfortable with time then maybe I’ll just order the ZS10 Pros again. I’ve read so many budget iem reviews on Youtube I have a headache.
I used the tips they came with. They were the medium ones But I only used them for 30 minutes. The next day I switched to the extra large tips and that’s when I used them for an hour and my ears started to hurt.

Yes I reviewed it a year ago or so. It’s also very bright. Theres a new TRN V90 that’s better, but still can be fatiguing if you find the ZS10 Pro fatiguing.

The Blon BL03 is worth a look. I have it, and its a great deal for $30 and is small and comfortable if you can deal with a shallower fit.

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Hi and welcome @BKChelly. The T2 is a great iem but not as comfortable as some. It’s not uncomfortable though. I like the CCA C12 very comfortable and great sound. The person with the most experience on Ultra cheap iems is @antdroid.

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Welcome @BKChelly!

My latest acquisition is the TRN V90, another multi-driver Chi-Fi IEM. I have been testing it and have been very impressed. Here is my review of it:

The V90 is the new flagship hybrid IEM from TRN, who are probably best known for their excellent 2DD + 2BA V80 hybrid earphone. The V90 is a 5-driver IEM (1DD + 4BA). It employs a 10mm dynamic driver with a “diamond graphite” diaphragm for the bass, two 50060 BAs for the midrange and two 30019 BAs for the high frequencies. This configuration resembles the KZ ZS10 Pro and CCA C10, with the 30019 BAs replacing the venerable 30095 units in the earlier models. The 30019 BA has been seen before in the BGVP SGZ-DN1S.

The IEMs are presented in a small rectangular box very similar to those used by KZ, CCA and KBEAR, whereas previous TRN models had their own corporate branding and design. With similar drive units to earphones from these other companies, it is likely that they originate from the same source. On the front of the box you will find an outline drawing of the earpiece with a red TRN logo above, the title “TRN V90” below and the description “4BA +1DD 10 Hybrid Drivers In-Ear Monitors” under that. Opening the box, the earpieces are nestled in a cut-out with the same text. Under the cut-out you will find the 2-pin cable, spare eartips and documentation, quite a basic package and very similar to that provided by KZ, etc.

The earpieces are very well made, being all-metal construction. They are understated in design compared to recent offerings from CCA (C12) and KZ (ZSX and ZS10 Pro) and are compact considering that they contain five drivers. They have a rounded profile resembling a pebble and have a smooth black anodised finish. There is a large circular TRN logo on the rear of the earpiece and two large vents for the dynamic driver. There is discreet channel identification and recessed 2-pin sockets. The detachable cable is similar to that supplied with the V80, being a black braided OFC copper cable with a straight metal 3.5mm plug and metal Y-split. There is no chin slider. This cable is preferable to that supplied with IEMs from KZ and CCA, etc. Comfort was excellent, in fact very similar to that achieved with the previous V80 model and isolation was above average.

The earphones were left burning in for over 72 hours before testing and included tracks of white and pink noise, glide tones and other audio conditioning tracks. After this I used a Hifi Walker H2 DAP with a Fiio A5 amplifier and a Sony NWZ-A15 for evaluation. Initially, the supplied cable and tips were used, but I achieved and improved performance by using a Senlee 8 core single crystal cable and JVC Spiral Dot tips, which were used for the purposes of the review.

The V90s displayed a well-balanced sound signature with solid sub-bass, clear articulate midrange and clean open treble with no discernible peaks. The 30019 treble BAs are tuned very well here and produce a preferable sound to that of the 30095 units found in most other recent “Chi-Fi” IEMs.

Bass

The sub-bass dug deep and possessed good texture and resolution, yet at the same time not dominating the overall sound. The rest of the bass region was nicely contoured and did not bleed into the mids. The lively powerful bass presentation came to the fore in Junior Tucker’s “The Kick (Rock On)”. The infectious bass line drove the track along in entertaining fashion and brought a smile to my face. It was clean and well-textured and was in perfect balance with the rest of the production. The menacing bass drums in Sibelius’s “The Swan of Tuonela” performed by the Lahti Symphony Orchestra provided a perfect foundation for the strings and the beautiful cor anglais solo in this moody and atmospheric work. Electronic music also benefited from this excellent bass extension with Jean-Michel Jarre’s “The Watchers” from “Equinoxe Infinity” displaying superb depth and attack from the arsenal of synthesisers deployed in this piece.

Midrange

The midrange was unusually clear and open, with accurate positioning of instruments. Solo instruments and vocals stood out but at the same time integrated well with their accompaniment. Detail retrieval was top-class, and the 50060 BAs displayed a very natural timbre. “Tomorrow is So Far Away” by Design was a good example of this with the “trippy-hippy” multi-tracked vocals being clearly depicted above the jangly guitar parts and percussion. Solo instruments in classical pieces also came over very effectively with the concertante parts in Holst’s “Venus” performed by the Montreal Symphony Orchestra under Charles Dutoit being beautifully rendered and accurately positioned within the stereo image. The complex tonalities and arrangements in Richard Souther’s “Beginnings” from his “Heirborne” album were well differentiated, allowing the different timbres of the synth patches to be appreciated. The lively rhythmic qualities of the piece were also preserved well.

Treble

The treble was very impressive. The decision to use the 30019 BAs instead of the more commonly found 30095 units was a good one. The extension, clarity and smoothness was immediately apparent, enabling the most subtle details to be heard with excellent resolution. Andreas Vollenweider’s “The Glass Hall” from his “White Winds” album features a wealth of crystalline percussion sounds which were reproduced with astonishing realism. Transient attack and dynamic range were also notable here. Orchestral strings possessed a wonderful timbre, with the beautiful string arrangement of Holst’s “Moorside Suite” conducted by David Lloyd-Jones being a good example. The high violin harmonics towards the end of the piece were particularly well portrayed and blended perfectly with the orchestral accompaniment. The subtle sounds of the violins being played “col legno” (with the strings being struck by the wood of the bow) at the conclusion of Sibelius’s “The Swan of Tuonela” are very difficult to reproduce but the V90s passed this test with flying colours.

Soundstage

The V90s managed to combine an expansive three-dimensional soundstage with excellent stereo imaging and accurate positioning of elements within the image. Recorded ambience was reproduced well enabling the character of a recording venue to be appreciated. Malcolm Arnold’s wonderful “Cornish Dances” performed by the LPO with the composer on the rostrum showed what the V90s could do with a huge spacious image filled with orchestral colour with the remarkable tambourine strikes having an impressive sense of distance. The somewhat “tongue-in-cheek” nature of the piece came over very well under the composer’s baton. Patrick Bernard’s “Hands of Sacred Light” is a beautiful new age piece from his “Angel Reiki” album. It features harp-like sounds and angelic voices underpinned by deep synthesised bass and the V90s did not disappoint, presenting a wide open airy atmosphere perfect for this kind of material. Smaller-scale pieces were also accurately depicted with Jacques Loussier’s famous Bach piece “Air on a G string” displaying piano, bass and drums in an authentic intimate acoustic. The almost tangible atmosphere of this piece was very impressive to hear.

Conclusion

With a large number of multi-driver hybrids recently released, the V90 has had to face impressive competition. KZ’s ZS10 Pro and ZSX, and CCA’s C10 and C12 are all vying for dominance in this market. The V90 with its well-balanced sound signature manages to combine the best of all these models with its impressive deep sub bass extension, expressive and articulate midrange and clean sparkling treble with no noticeable peaks. The 30019 treble BAs were very impressive with a resolution and timbre equal to that of the Knowles drivers in my Tin Hifi T3 and TRI i4 IEMs. If you are looking for a multi-driver hybrid IEM in this price range and you value a well-balanced or neutral signature, then this is definitely the one to go for.
This review sample was provided at a substantial discount by Gina from Senlee at Amazon.com
Product link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X7S3QTK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Don’t have much to say but I will start my first post in this Forum by reviewing the Tin Audio T2. Nice to meet you all.

This post would be a copy paste from my personal blog with some edit from me to fit the site: https://banbeucams.com/review-tin-hifi-t2/

The Tin Audio T2 or I should say the Tin Hifi T2 is one of the IEMs has created quite a hype since its release last year. This is also one of my entry in the IEMs zone after the KZ ZSN which I would yet to post a review here.

The unit that I would review would be from a local store in my country: Xuan Vu Audio

Contents:

  • Fake leather box
  • 6 pairs of Silicon ear tips
  • 1 pair of foam ear tips
  • 1 unbalanced 3.5mm MMCX cable
  • The product itself

Nothing out of ordinary for me with the box itself, considering my last purchase was the KZ ZSN I had expect similar things come out of this product.

The T2 build quality is metal just by judging on how it looks, yet for me it is pretty light in my hand. The only complain that I would give about this thing upon my first use is the application of tips: This thing has a 6mm nozzle diameter and it was a painful experience for me to remove the foam ear tips (which didn’t fit my ears even after rolling) and replace it with a silicon ear tips that fits my ears. Going pass that then the everything else about this IEM is fine, isolation is not the best but usable, stuff usually fits my ears anyway as long as a small silicon tip is present.

The cable is soft yet seem really study. There is no memory silicon attached near the connector so you can wear it whatever you like. Some people around me has complained about how it can be easily tangled or some quality control issues but since I usually put it in a soft case, this isn’t a problem.

Sounds:

It all comes down to the fact that how this thing performs. The Tin Hifi T2 features a neutral bright sound signature. Upon my listening, I found out this earphones has a slight boost on the mids which seem to give the vocal a little bit “thickness” to it. The bass on this product might be one of the thing where I wouldn’t recommend for bassheads. It is not to the point of non-existant or anything, just that the subbass seem too be hidden among the other sounds which might result in a flat, uninteresting experience for some people unless you pay attention closely. The treble is tuned well for its price although one of my complain is that it is easily prone to sibilance issues which becomes a significant problem for me on a lot of Japanese “weeb” songs. While I myself has coped with this sound, I can imagine some people ears will get fatiguing because of the issue with the treble I mentioned.

The timbre of the T2 is pretty much on point for me, nothing much I can complain about. Soundstage and resolution is another story: During my hearing I had got a slight issue with the cymbal where it is all fuzzy and kind of blend in together, this is something that occurs occasionally on some of the Rock, Metal genre song that I usually hear. The soundstage of this thing seem narrow, combining with the clear sound of pretty much any instruments (except the cymbal) it can still create some trouble on recognizing the position of the instruments, not something I would recommend to an orchestra listener.

Conclusion:

I think the reason for the hype of this product is that it is basically tuned well as a neutral iem, especially in its 50$ price range. While I think after a year the hype is pretty much died out, the hit on the timbre of this thing can be a good reason why it is still a solid choice for a lot of people as casual listeners.
For anyone who wants to get into the Audio scenes and basicly have no idea of what you like, this earphone can be a baseline for starters due to its budget pricing and a work for all solution (after accounting all of the variables, not just Sounds) that not everyones like but might just take it anyway.

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Welcome. A bold first post. Would like to see some pointers or links to some of the music you used when doing your listening test. I don’t know anything about “weeb” songs. Do they have anything to do with schoolgirls being attacked by creatures with tentacles?

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I have various song (A lot of it is Japanese related) when I do my listening test, while I heard various song to come to that conclusion of the sibilance issue, here is one of it https://youtu.be/2PyiyhvqnYk.

Will make sure to include these thing when I have the chance to review another IEM

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Welcome @Banbeucmas. Great post.

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Interesting link. I can see how and why you are concerned about sibilance and reflections. Are there any higher resolution examples of weeb music?

I’m still looking for tentacles. :wink:

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“…for a friend of course…” :wink:

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Since most of these music are CDs, I have yet to find a higher resolution than 44.1Khz/16 bit. Even when artists provide a Web download link, resolution stays the same.
Maybe someone who is more weeb than me can pull me out of the Doujin scenes and provide me a high resolution of these thing :smile:

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44/16 is fine. But that’s not what YouTube tends to deliver. Earlier, I was on my phone, and I’m not one that loves the tiny keyboard. The music was interesting, with a mixture of general world pop and some traditional Japanese sounds. I’m sure that there is a whole range of domestic market Japanese music that is unknown to western ears.

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If the highest quality is what you want then I have some CD rips laying around on my computer. Do you need em?

Thank you, but this system is not set up to handle large files. And there would be a concern about copyright. All I am suggesting is that if you use a streaming service, like Spotify, Tidal, or even Apple Music, and there is a link to a song you use, then post the link. Another thing to do is try DISCOGS which will give plenty of information for those of us who are curious to try and search a link.

We have all used YouTube when it’s hard to find anything else, or when there is a video that is good. What is hard for me is that when there are characters in a language I don’t know, or that are not in the usual character set, I don’t know how to search properly.

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Bad news is that these music. While pretty much known in Japan, isn’t widely known outside. Doujin music is a pretty niche community. The song I provided to you for example aren’t available on streaming platform.
There is also websites that circles self host their website to promote the CDs for a certain amount of time (Meaning it isn’t stable and it can be down at any moment) and I can post CDs purchase link if that is what you want (Like how you suggested DISCOGS) but the distributor site is entirely on Japanese and also… Have 80% of their goods are NSFW which isn’t ideal.
At best I would provide the song name next time if that is what you want, the rest the reader would have to search em themselves, is that ok? With all of the concern about copyright, I guess YouTube isn’t ideal then.

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