I’ve seen analog 1 with usb x Yggy’s floating around for around the 1100 range, good to know that swapping the usb is pretty straight forward, takes it to around 1300 plus shipping, etc
Schiit had a b stock BF2 for a very short time this morning and then it was gone… go figure.
Be aware of the Yggy Garage Sale model when seeing low prices too. It’s a prior gen franken-product.
Yes, I was reading the 1599 garage sale A1 Gen5, then 200 for the usb takes you to the used prices the Yggy A2 Unison. But you get a three year warranty from Schiit. Maybe they’d install the Unison for the 200, then ship it to you?
Just a fast comparison, side by side, same amp, same headphone, same song, the difference between the two is so subtle, I can barely tell the difference. The Yggy might be a little more warm, little more body but to me, it’s tough to tell, it’s that close. Listening to Ray LaMontagne, he’s been my go to for detail and instrument separation.
Appearance, I really like how discrete the Matrix and it sounds just as good as the yggy. And it has a very functional remote.
Sound and functionality, I’d lean to the Matrix.
As the king of terrible typos and awful autocorrects, the idea of a “very fictional remote” really hit my funny bone.
Thanks for the comparison, looking forward to more impressions of your new dac!
It’s half the fun typing on iOS and then Apple finishes your sentence for you. Makes you sound like you barely got out of the first grade.
In my case, that’s truer than you might think!
Macs were designed for first graders. This is intentional. Expected behavior. 
Where do R2R ladder DAC’s stand again for instance the Yggy or X-Sabre which of course, are the two I’m familiar with and also what’s available that stays under the 2k range but again, really rival the Yggy?
I can’t think of any R2R ladder DAC that truly rivals Yggdrasil and comes in under $2,000.
Things like the Soekris dac2541 ($1,299) and Holo Audio CYAN PCM ($1,299 - but I’d heard it was discontinued) are very good, but not quite on the same level as Yggdrasil. The new Holo Audio Spring DAC 3 - L1 is $2,198 … which is probably the closest competitor, albeit with a different presentation.
After that prices all climb rapidly away from Yggdrasil’s … and with no guarantees that the more expensive units are better.
Thanks again as always @Torq I think I need to give it (yggy) some time, see if it grows on me (hopefully not any larger…). I might ad another tube in the future, so the desk space might get smaller…
For reasons that don’t make a lot of sense to me, Yggdrasil is widely reported as needing about a week of power-on time before it sounds its best. I found that took less time with the A2 version.
It is a full size component, which does seem large when compared to the much more compact units that tend to pervade the headphone space. But then the next DAC up from Yggdrasil on my list is the dCS Bartok - which is 5x the price and 50% larger still.
I’ve got decent desk space and it’s all entertainment anyways, so I don’t work on this desk and I’ve had a lot of large components on it. It was small, less cluttered and it was nice but I guess it’s a give and take. I still use the Ipad with Qobuz, so a spot to place that is priority, then yggy, headphone stand and then the 1st of possible two small headphone amps. That leaves the desk full.
I’m working on getting the voice in my head to stop turning off the yggy and see how the sound changes. I’m so use to turning things off.
Thank goodness the power condition and dc filter is under the desk…
(yes, the mouse pad is pretty grungy)
I think that’s a human perception issue, not a hardware issue. My Bifrost 2 routinely sounds a little weird if I don’t use it for several days. I never turn it off, so it never needs to warm up. It sounds fine if I listen regularly.
Does the Bifrost 2 get warm when you leave it on? When I had it, I always turned it off, just curious.
It could be.
There are, of course, good reasons why some things change their performance between a cold state and them reaching thermal equilibrium. But that’s a process that takes less than a couple of hours with Yggdrasil, so if it was a physical thing, rather than a psychological one, it isn’t that (or isn’t “just” that).
Either way, I just leave things like DACs powered on.
Tube amplifiers I don’t, as the tubes in question are too expensive to do that with - even if it does mean waiting a few minutes before sitting down to listen properly, and half an hour or so before peak performance is achieved.
I always turn off the tubes but heat unattended just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
Funny, when the Decware warms it, it does an electronic fart and then I know it’s at a listening point…
Warm yes, hot no. I always turn off tubed products.
I asked of course cause I never leave anything on. I left the Yggy on last night and this morning it was maybe luke warm. That’s my little voice again telling me to turn things off…
What amp(s) do you like that fit the same sort of value perspective? Long term goals… And I assume you would pair with the yggdrasil.
