Or Raal SR1-a! Interesting comments from Dandawhite. Maybe the LCD5 is more of a competitor for the Raals than Susvara. I have Raal/Sus/1266 as they cover the whole spectrum. I’m waiting for CRBN and will borrow my good friend’s LCD5 when he gets them - if he can part with them!
There is no “only one headphone”!
This is a very impressive collection @dandawhite.
Without taking EQ into account, the susvara, compared to the LCD-5, has slightly better tonality with a bit more realistic clarity. However, if you elect to use EQ, then the LCD-5 can be on the same plane, tonality wise, as the susvara. The difference between the two boils down to better percussive sounds on the LCD-5, while the susvara has a slightly larger soundstage.
For me personally, I prefer the LCD-5 for a few reasons. First, I absolutely love hearing a realistic sounding drum punch and kick. The susvara never could quite get that right for my ears. Secondly, the LCD-5 is much easier to drive, and sounds great on a wider range of amplifiers. Lastly, I always felt like I had to baby the susvaras because they felt so fragile. It was a bit stressful moving them around; I felt like a small piece of dirt or hair could just fall right into the driver and destroy the can, or the yoke would break off if I put too much force on them. I have no such issue with the LCD-5, it is built like a tank in comparison.
I personally think Susvara with EQ is also a great candidate and can have a very convincing low end.
Out of box, LCD5 definitely does slam more, but it’s much more one-noty and less expansive. This creates that sense of dynamism at the expense of breathing room.
LCD5 is quite intimate, it’s definitely fantastically tuned (one of the bests ever), but I personally prefer Susvara and LCD-R over them by a fair margin, and also find LCD4 with EQ or the good ol HE6 a more convincingly real and enjoyable listen.
Force me to keep just one and liquidate everything, I’d probably buy my LCD5 back
My Susvara came in today and I’m running it with a Burson Funk. Even with this amplifier, it is better heaphone than my others by far (Utopia, LCD-5). My Bakoon AMP-13R is on its way.
You have an impressive collection of TOTL headphones. What is it about the Susvara that you like more than the other 2?
I find the Susvara has as much (or more) detail than the others, but is less fatiguing to listen to. I find the the LCD-5 and the Utopia to be a bit on the shouty side.
hey @triggsviola! welcome to the headphones.com community! I think you’ll be in for a treat with the sus and bakoon. It should be a great combo
I actually just wrote a particularly relevant comment to this question on the LCD-5 thread. Pay attention to point 2. This is where susvara can run into a lot of issues on lower end amps that kinda have enough power but not realy (GSX-mini is a great example of that range)
So, this isn’t really a FR thing. Instead its largely a control/slam/impact thing (that again, isn’t commonly measured even if it was measurable). Maybe this would show up in a CSD with a bad amp and a good one, but im realy not sure tbh.
the 13R, 23R and ORR will all properly drive Sus. The GSX-mini will not. If you are looking for something cheaper than the OOR you can look at the V281. Not the end all be all, but it sufficiently powers sus in a smaller foot print ~1200 used
you need the hypsos as well so its 2x as high, but yah, they are both small.
Mind if I ask what amps you use for these? Just curriosity on my end tbh
Yah boi. LCD-R end game. Its not the best technicaly (certainly great but not on sus/HE-60 levels), but something about them just makes me adore the hell out of em.
Finally got around to doing this, if anyone is interested to read:
Hi, I just joined the Headphone community forum! I’m thinking of buying the Susvara headphones, but before I do, I’d like to know whether the headphone amps I own will drive the Susvaras. I own the GSX-mini, Rogue Audio RH5 and the Pathos Inpol Ear amps. Which of those do susvara owners think will be a good pairing with the Susvara headphones. If none of those will be a good pairing which amp do you think I should consider for the susvaras. I appreciate any recommendations and suggestions experienced susvara owners can give. Thanks!!
So GSX-mini is a no go imo but the inpol ears is a bit of a favorite on headfi. Unfortunately I haven’t heard it yet but it seems to be pretty widely enjoyed by people that have tried the combo
You have great amps, but I like it best on the Enelum 23r. They hype is real: the Bakoon/Enleum is a perfect pairing.
Did Resolve ever make an EQ profile for the Susvara
If yes, can you @Resolve or someone else please share?
Thanks
why in the world would we want to change the sound signature of the susvara?..this EQ thing is crazy
I’m pretty sure his recommendation is a slight bump of 2-2.5db at 100hz, if any. The susvara is about as balanced as you’re going to get. You’re basically tweaking to taste, not correcting.
Everyone likes bass
Jokes aside Susvara measures extremely similar to HE-1 on Crin’s rig(minus bass extension). Which makes me think this is the ‘‘consensus’’ on what sound ‘‘best’’.
And interestingly, HD800S is not far off. It has a bit more rolled off bass due to being dynamic driver and a couple db hotness around 6k. Sundara is also very similar to this team. On the other hand HD6x0 series show roll of on both ends bass/treble.
I don’t know why Fang Bian target different tuning with egg shaped headphones. You see quite a bit more recession around 1.5k and more elevated treble above 3k. I wonder why.