Hey @pennstac and @Jaethan … I’m a huge fan of Philip Glass!! Seriously…I’m.
Soon you’ll see me posting here some stuff from him.
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I found a new singer today: Ruby Waters.
She only has three songs on iTunes.
Pretty cool.
Top Tracks - Ruby Waters: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1dXrovcagUxG0hdIdSud0X6Q9lCANFuH
Shane D
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I’m really liking all three songs so far! Very nice. Thanks for that.
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I’ve actually sat through a Philip Glass concert. At least it was very early Glass. But your Kid’s album isn’t PG.
Thing is, there are others I like roughly tangent to this genre.
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Cool huh? I bought all three. I go through all the dreck in iTunes under rock and alt rock every weekend.
It ALL sounds so similar!
I had almost given up and only gotten one song: Maria by Grandson which is apparently a cover. Liking Grandson more and more.
Then came across her single and dug around. Always nice to find some “new to me stuff”.
Shane D
@taronlissimore this game and soundtrack are awesome! It’s on the switch, and I think it is currently on sale but 
hmmm not sure.
Anyhow I think you would dig it!
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More of a general post. I was reading an article a while ago on my phone. I think it was in Rolling Stone. It stated that, on average, people stop pursuing and collecting new music at the age of 28.
I am betting that number is a lot higher on here. I am 58 and I am disappointed if I don’t find something new every week. I am a child of the 70’s and love Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, J Geils Band, ELO, etc.
However 75% of my time is spent listening to new/newish stuff.
I do believe the article though as most people aren’t us. When I talk to people in their 60’s/50’s/40’s and even 30’s they will say that there hasn’t been any decent music since the 60’s/70’s/80’s/90’s.
Shane D
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I try and do that with Spotify but they never show you all of the releases. Forced to do advanced filters just to see everything that comes out, oh Spotify.
Yeah, Rage Against the Machine! I haven’t really heard of Grandson before, I’ll check that out.
The latest thing I found when searching was this new-ish album from All Things Blue:
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I was just thinking this today…my Spotify discovery hasn’t provided any major new music as of late…and I was bumming on that today at the office…which I have a new setup…We finally moved into cubicle hell (I’m grateful because my old office was stifling and 10deg hotter than the rest of the building).
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Grandson is pretty rocky. They just put out EP’s and singles so they always seem to have a single on the charts. Kind of addictive, to me.
All Things Blue would be filed under alternative in iTunes. They are a little different.
Every week there are 12 to 16 albums that all sound suspiciously familiar. I don’t know if they are following a sound or if record companies are making them sound a certain way? Or maybe they only sign bands that sound a certain way?
It is SO hard to find something different. That is why I detoured to horn jazz a few years ago. I don’t play if often, but I enjoy it.
Old is Miles Davis, Freddie Hubbard, Hank Mobley, etc.
New is Trombone Shorty, Kamasi Washington and Nubya Garcia.
Shane D
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Speaking of artists with only a few songs, have you heard of i///u? They had a feature on KEXP recently and I started listening to their stuff. Also alternative. I listen to a lot of alternative:
There is also WAAX who is more alternative/indie rock. I really liked their Wild and Weak EP :
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That looks like a scene from 1980’s post-modern futuristic dystopia.
What do they make people do in your cubicles?
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This must have been a wonderful experience. I am jealous.
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People also spend less money on new music then they used to. In the thread, “what service do you use for music playback” I referenced a University of Glasgow study on the unintended environmental and economic costs of music consumption. It showed that since the advent of streaming, up to 2.5 times more greenhouse gas equivalents (GHGs) are produced to store and transmit digital audio files than to produce and play CDs and vinyl but it also revealed this: “when plotted against the changing average salary of a US citizen over history, consumers were willing to pay roughly 4.83% of an average weekly salary in vinyl’s peak year of production in 1977, a price which slips down to roughly 1.22% of an average weekly salary in 2013, the peak of digital album sales.”
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Stealing has become the new normal. If it is digital then it has no value. You have an entire generation believing that only an idiot would pay for music, movies, books, software, etc. That is why I used the term “collects music”.
Anytime I mention buying music to anyone under 40 they look at me like I’m an idiot.
I had a boss a couple of years ago that used to steal movies and cable. I asked him if he was okay with people stealing electronics from his store. He did not understand the comparison and gave me a dirty look.
Shane D
PS: just read on my phone that they are killing iTunes next week. Hopefully my balance moves over to the new music app (Apple Music?) Or I will have to spend about $140.00 really quick.
I put the word out years ago that if anyone wanted to get me a gift for birthday, Christmas, whatever, just give me iTunes cards. I always carry a healthy balance.
Shane D
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just read on my phone that they are killing iTunes next week. Hopefully my balance moves over to the new music app (Apple Music?) Or I will have to spend about $140.00 really quick
One of the things about iTunes that really bothered me was having to pay for a compressed music format. I don’t see how it would cost them more to provide the lossless version. Most digital music sales platforms offer a choice of lossy and lossless music formats for the same price.
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If you’re talking about platforms like Bandcamp and it’s ilk, that might be true, but the major studios and lables very definitely charge more for lossless versions - and even then the majority of those are not available to buy in lossless form at ALL unless you go for the CD and rip it.
Even the streaming services, where there’s no ownership at all, charge double for lossless access.
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Regarding new music and how to find it, does anyone use the old school way: music magazines, like Pitchfork (which is one of the few still in existence)? I recently came across an interesting article on the decline of music journalism titled, “Where Have All the Music Magazines Gone?” If you are interested you can read it here: https://longreads.com/2018/12/27/where-have-all-the-music-magazines-gone/
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I checked out some HD sites over the years looking for ALAC files, but the cost was $20.00 to $25.00 per album, in US funds!! And quite often you can’t buy just a few songs, it is the whole album or nothing.
I pay about 10.00 (Canadian 's) per album in iTunes. I have bought thousands of songs since I went digital in 2009. Having the freedom to just buy songs from an album has allowed me to build a huge and varied collection.
It took me a decade to build up the current catalog. The catalog being every song I have ever liked in my life. I spent literally thousands of hours searching, listening, buying, downloading, finding album art, etc.
Now I just check iTunes every Friday/Saturday for new music day.
I guess I may have to find another program and/or source.
Shane D
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Yes I was referring to sites like Bandcamp as the major labels now make most of their revenue through streaming. According to the Recording Industry Association of America, streaming now makes up for 75 percent of its revenue, digital downloads 12% and physical sales 10% https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RIAA-Mid-Year-2018-Revenue-Report.pdf .
Perhaps I could be enlightened on this but from my observations, most of those digital download sales are either through iTunes or Amazon and yes most of the Amazon format choices are either downloadable MP3, CD or vinyl. The labels could have made their music available on their own websites as lossless digital downloads but being as they missed the digital boat, due in part to their arrogance, they have invested in streaming, trading off low per stream pay for ownership shares in companies like Spotify. This has had the adverse effect of locking out the artist from having any say in how they get reimbursed. Last year, popular cellist and composer Zoe Keating shared that more than 2.25 million streaming plays of her music on Spotify netted only around $12,200.
That said, in my view the music industry has always behaved badly, as exemplified in Kerry Segrav’s book, Payola in the Music Industry: A History, 1880-1991.
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