Cool I just found a 24/92 version of that track on Soulseek…will have a listen soon.
So I just spent about half an hour going back and forth between LX and Solaris SE with that song. The biggest difference I noticed was that on the Solaris the vocals seemed more forward and spread out in the mix-- but I didn’t notice any absence of detail, it was just tucked behind the vocals a we bit… On the whole I preferred the presentation of the LX on that track but I don’t think I would have noticed much difference had I not been looking for it specifically. I could see the LX being your preferred IEM of the two if that style of music is your preferred choice. Conversely a lot of what I listen to has more bass than that and, on the LX, I find much of the detail tucked behind the bass as it was with the vocals in that track. One of the reasons I have both IEMs is that I love what each bring to the table and find them to be a great complementary pair.
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I am listening to it right now, it has a lot of imperfections in the mastering I am noticing.
I picked up your recommended tips, they are very good for instrumentals not so much for pop. IDK maybe I have to get used to them.
I picked up the Fiio M11 Pro and Fiio M15, ill give you guys my thoughts in a little bit.
I have to say the M11 Pro sounds just as good as my RME-ADI2 + THX 789. It’s a very well-performing DAP, expect its power output is very low, it can drive my 650’s but not the same as a real amp.
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That describes the staging of the Solaris exactly. It’s very involving.
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Guilty as charged. You have impeccable observation. Kudos (Y).
Hey everyone,
I have been listening to the M11 Pro and the M15 with the Solaris and the M11 pro is perfectly fine and actually has a dark image then the M15.
I am not super thrilled by the M15 at this moment. I would recommend the M11 Pro for now if you are in the market for a DAP.
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Just a note – I’ve posted in the Buy/Sell category that I am selling mine (Solaris) for $895 now.
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After about two weeks with the Solaris – I grabbed em discounted at CanJam NYC – I’ve got a couple of updates:
Like many, I struggled with fit and soreness, to the point where I was seriously considering selling them. After trying a million tips of all sizes (I’m usually a medium), I bought the SpinFit CP145 in small based on a recommendation on this forum, and have had little or no pain since. Finally, I find myself forgetting I’m wearing IEMs and just enjoying the music 
Second, when I bought them, the CA rep said they’d need 200 hours of burn-in before they opened up, especially in the low end. I was skeptical that there would be a difference at 200 hrs that wasn’t there at 100, but I was wrong. Something noticeable happens around 200, and I find them to be fuller and more enjoyable.
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I enjoyed the sound of the Solaris straight out of the box and can’t say I noticed any noticeable difference between out of the box and extended listening time. I really like the Solaris though and it’s a very tough choice between the Solaris and the Empire Ears Valkyrie for me at that price point (although the Valkyrie does have the better fit).
If you are having issues with fit beyond the tips helping I’d highly recommend grabbing a cable that isn’t as stiff as the super litz cable that comes with the Solaris. Campfire’s own smoky litz cable does wonders for comfort and also allows for easy readjustment. Would definitely recommend it if you can get your hands on it.
Happy to hear you managed to snag them for a deal at CanJam! Show specials are always great!
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Same with the silver litz.
Got one for $50 during Black Friday and it is the best sounding and most comfortable, by far.
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I just received a pair of Solaris SEs and have been running them through the gauntlet. Only been a couple of days, but so far my initial very high level impressions are consistent with others (so I don’t have much new to add to be honest):
-not the best low frequencies I’ve heard (my LX is better)
-not the best highs, either (I just got a pair of Valks as well and - while new - am loving the electrostatic sound sig; I also somewhat am leaning to the crispness of the highs on the Andromeda SE Gold which I really enjoy)
-the above two comments not withstanding, I love having the SEs in my ears…they are extremely resolving, do everything really well (even if they’re not the best at any one thing), the detail separation and clarity is amazing IMO
Keep in mind I’ve had them in my ears maybe 10-15 hours max so far and am also burning in a new DAP at the same time.
Also, regarding tips, I tend to prefer foams, and I’ve tried quite a few foams and silcones. Right now, my favorite is the Symbio hybrid foam/silicone. I’m using them on my LX and Valks as well. I have not tried the Sednas but may given them a spin given comments above.
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Glad you’re enjoying them man 
The LX does have better bass…but it’s unsustainable for long stretches (for me anyway)…the Solaris is much more balanced. It’s probably my favorite “all rounder” that I’ve heard. Happy listening!
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Thank you - and thanks again for your impressions, feedback, and answering my questions. You’ve been a big help to me.
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I realized I’ve never shared my SE Solaris impressions in any great detail in this thread, so stuck inside today with not much going on I thought I’d pick, choose and expand on some I’ve shared elsewhere.
2019 was a hell of a year for me in portable audio. One year ago January I, like so many other audiophile plebs, started scouring places like Head Fi and r/headphones for information on which over ear bluetooth noise cancelling head set was right for me. Little did I know at the time that doing so was going to kick off a journey of epic proportions that would take me through some of the best sounding IEMs on the market right now. The idea of a “journey” is a very apt metaphor for many of us in this hobby as it often comprises a transition from one place to another, often over and over again. There are many (arguably the fortunate ones) who know what they’re looking for immediately and go straight for it, there are others who think they know what they want but find along the way that what satisfies them in the end is nothing like what they thought they were seeking in the beginning, and there are those still who don’t really have an end destination in mind at all-- they’re simply enjoying the journey. The beautiful thing in this hobby is that the selection these days is so vast that there’s something out there for everyone and it need not be the same thing for any two people.
For a good chunk of last year (from about March to September) the OG Solaris was my bae-- it was the best “all arounder” IEM I’d heard to that point and I was more-or-less satisfied with it. Every now and again-- egged on by the sort of ever-present curiosity that plagues many of us in this hobby, and also, if I’m honest, a desire for just a dash more impact here and there in Solaris’ presentation-- I made a point of demoing all the TOTL IEMs I could to see if anything could usurp it. For a long time nothing could though many tried their best.
At the end of last summer I demoed a QDC Anole VX and was wowed by its vividness, detail and clarity. Haunted by the VX for a few days after I heard it at a meet I took the plunge and ordered one. Upon receiving it I did some a/b’ing back and forth and fell in love with the VX for its vivid, detailed and slightly aggressive sound and eventually decided to sell ny OG Solaris. Not much changed in the following weeks in my love of the VX-- it’s a fantastic IEM The biggest complaint I would lobby at it, apart from a dash of the BA timbre (though it does bass very well imho) is that it’s a little TOO aggressive in certain regions of the highs-- to the point that certain instruments sound, not quite “tizzy” or “sibilant” but a little too energetic and not quite natural. I noticed this especially with piano in some of Vince Guaraldi’s works. It could be a dash fatiguing after a while, but for the most part I could dismiss it.
If I’m being honest, at that point there were certain elements of Solaris’ presentation that I missed very much, namely its more holographic presentation, instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre and, of course, the DD bass. Taking all that into account, along with my love of Campfire Audio’s whole mode of presentation, philosophy and ethos, when the SE Solaris in November I was unable to resist and pre-ordered from Travis at Headphone Bar almost immediately.
The five or so weeks between my pre-order of the Solaris SE and its arrival into my hands were some of the longest of my audiophile career (I hate the wait for new gear in the mail) but suffice to say the wait was worth it and the moment I got the package in my hands was one of the greatest in my short time in this hobby. The unboxing experience was wonderful. As I’ve said I love CFA’s whole mode of presentation-- minimalist, beautiful, memorable, effective. It was a very different experience from the needless bulk of the VX or the ostentatious packaging of the IER Z1R. Furthermore the build quality is superb (as I’ve come to expect from CFA) and the IEMs themselves are beyond beautiful—they definitely appealed to me more in person than the photos, and that impression has grown on me in time. I will say one more thing about the packaging—of all the IEMs I’ve owned only with CFA IEMs (and I have owned the Comet, Atlas, Solaris OG and Solaris SE) do I feel compelled to display it on a shelf due to how cool it looks. All of this said, build quality and packaging mean nothing if the sound quality isn’t up to par.
So how is the sound? The SE Solaris sounds simply divine to my ears. In my estimation Campfire Audio has knocked it out of the park—it was the best sounding IEM that I heard in 2019. I managed to stop by Headphone Bar again about a week after receiving the SE and got in an a/b with OG Solaris. Hearing OG Solaris for the first time in 3 months after having SE Solaris for over a week was interesting. It’s true that the differences are not night and day-- SE Solaris is definitely still Solaris…which imho is a good thing as for those of us who love it there isn’t much that needed changing. The differences are subtle and more-or-less in line with what I wrote in my original impressions. The most notable improvement imho is in clarity, separation and a greater sense of space-- everything seems to have a little more space to breath and as such more space for detail to become evident. This, to me, is a thing I think Solaris does as good or better than any IEM I’ve heard: it generates a sense of space and separation…you really feel like you’re floating at the centre of a vast and well-defined soundscape—but at the same time there is a coherent and ever-present unity discernible in the signature. This to me is the mark of a well-balanced signature—for every element to occupy its own space while simultaneously manifesting as a unity. Couple all of this with the dynamic bass and it’s pure win for me. Vocals, particularly male vocals (as that’s what I listen to and am more familiar with) definitely feel more bodied and forward in the mix. Mark Knopfler, Morrissey and Michael Jackson all sound like they’re in the room with me singing into my ear. There also seems to be a dash more shimmer up top and the bass is cleaner. I never would have described the bass in OG Solaris as “muddy” or “hazy”, but relative to SE it feels just slightly so.
I would say that the SE Solaris has more air and sparkle than the OG. At the time it was released I (among others) described the OG Solaris as “Andro plus bass” however many lovers of the Andro objected to that characterization claiming that the Solaris lacked the air and sparkle up top that characterized the Andro. I suspect that the SE may be closer to this than the OG, but I don’t have enough experience with Andro to really weigh in.
All in all it’s precisely what it was advertised as-- still a Solaris with some subtle refinements to the sound. The defining characteristics are there-- a dynamic but disciplined and non intrusive low end, peerless instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre, holographic 3-d soundstage, and so on. The biggest revelation for me is that I no longer find myself craving more “impact” in the low end as I’m too afraid it would interfere with the “wholeness” of the picture presented. This is arguably the biggest triumph of the Solaris in general in my estimation, something that SE Solaris just refines a wee bit. It might not sound like a lot, or jump out at you at first listen, but as you spend more time with it the refinements become more evident-- they were enough to push the SE Solaris above the Anole VX for me as my top IEM of 2019.
*Usual caveat that audio is a fundamentally subjective hobby and blah blah blah everything I state in absolute terms needs to have the addendum “relative to my own tastes and preferences” attached to it.
Results of a 4-way shootout between the Vision Ears VE8, CFA Solaris SE, 64 Audio u12t and EE Legend X:
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You’re iem journey has been a rapid one and I for one have enjoyed following it. You seem very much like me in that regard once you know what you want you go for it and don’t bugger about. I really have enjoyed reading your impressions too. Thanks.
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It seems quick on the surface but I’ve spent much of my life admiring high quality audio from a distance-- wanting to get into it but never quite finding the time or resources until later in life. Once I was ready to take the plunge I had some idea what I wanted…or at least I thought I did. It’s stupidly cliche but the expression “follow your heart” has real import in this hobby. It’s easy to get attached to certain biases and ideals or bewildered by all the different influences and perspectives out there and to ultimately forget that this is fundamentally a personal journey. Everyone has their own perspective, their own preferences-- no two people experience everything the same-- or arguably even any one thing. I believe that the greater the extent that someone is willing/able to identify and go after exactly what they want-- and be guided primarily by their own perceptions and inclinations-- the greater will be their overall satisfaction in this hobby.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I get attached to my iem’s which is silly. As they are only tools in the end. I also try not to take criticism of any gear I have personally. As you say it’s all opinion based is feedback to a certain extent. IMHO anyway. The problem comes when some folk really do take it as a personal affront when they hear criticisms of their gear. This leads to bun fights and handbags at dawn on some forums.
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I’m usually pretty good about this (regarding criticism)… except whenever it is regarding my beloved ZMFs lol then I’m like fight me!!! lol
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Hahaha, well that’s why I never criticise them.
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Ha… I’m really joking just to be clear! lol…but I may question those who don’t like them…within reason of course… we all have our biases after all.
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