Cayiin N6ii is perfectly fine with all the streaming apps I’ve tried.
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Final Audio Type E? Azla’s smallest size, SS, is 10.4mm:
Final Audio Type E’s S is 10mm and the SS coming at 9mm! At least according to audio64:
Approx Measurements by Audio46:
Inner diameter (all sizes) = 4mm
Inner diameter with adapter (all sizes) = 2mm
LL = height 10mm, outer diameter 13mm
L = height 10mm, outer diameter 12mm
M = height 9.5mm, outer diameter 11mm
S = height 9mm, outer diameter 10mm
SS = height 9mm, outer diameter 9mm
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Odin comes with them. I also ordered some. Still no dice.
I’ve given up on Universal’s. I’ll just buy a custom.
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Yeah, but odin doesn’t come custom!
How about eartune fidelity? (Was gonna try them but my weird canals changed my mind)
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Sure it does …
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Nah. Customs means locking them in, no re-sell. So I’ll have to go cheaper. Can’t be throwing 5k into something permanent.
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Is this new? When I was considering them, they were not listed on the custom page.
It does. About to get one for me.
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How do these compare to the Campfire Audio Solaris?
I liked the Solaris First generation, but the shells were too big.
I liked that sound signiture alot.
I’m thinking about going custom IEMs, and the Odin is something I’ve been eying for a bit now.
I’ve never used Empire ears stuff before.
Do they sound anything like the Solaris? or something like the Focal Stellia (which I also love).
I’m thinking they don’t sound like the Audeze LCD-5, which I also love.
Thanks!
John
They sound likeeeee…Final D8000 Pro. Maybe.
Heaps of everything and nothing very pronounced over the other.
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I’ve owned both, and currently own Odin. The Odin is a big, big step up in technical performance in pretty much every area: resolution, imaging, depth, texture, dynamics, etc. etc.
The tonality is a little different too. The Odin has a little bit more bass, with much more impact and quality. The mid-range is a little more forward at 1K on the Odin but its not quite as noticeable to me. You may hear piano notes a little more striking than on Solaris, and female vocals and strings have a bit more forward attack.
Here’s my graph measurements of both below, normalized at 800Hz.
I have the universal Odin though, so custom may have a slightly different treble response since it has deeper insertion.
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I’ve not heard the Stellia enough to be able to comment, and I’ve not heard the LCD-5 at all, yet. But I can offer some broad comparisons between the Odin, which I heard on a loaner tour here about a year ago, and the original Solaris, which I now own. I didn’t have them together at the same time, so these aren’t direct comparisons, and I should add as a further disclaimer that I’m going off hazy, distant memory of the Odin.
Tuning, Textures, and Timbre
- The Odin’s tuning is warmer, has more low-end emphasis, and rolls off sooner in the treble
- The Solaris is more evenly balanced and has more treble extension and sparkle
- I prefer the tuning of the Solaris with one exception:
- The Solaris has some vocal-region recession, which the Odin doesn’t
- The Odin has a richer, thicker sound - more of what some call tonal weight
- The Solaris is leaner, brighter, and perhaps more evenly balanced in its tuning
- The Odin’s bass is stronger, more emphatic, better textured, richer, and it has more heft when called on to deliver that bass (as with electronic music, for instance, or soundtracks)
- It has more sub-bass rumble than the Solaris
- I’m not sure if the bass is faster or tighter or cleaner on the Solaris but I’m tempted to think so. This would require a direct comparison to determine. There’s probably not much in it - from distant, foggy memory
Technicalities
- The Odin’s resolution and microdynamics are superior. You can hear much more detail.
- I suspect the Solaris has more impact and stronger macrodynamics than the Odin but I could well be wrong here
- The Odin has more slam, which is to say a stronger hit to the bass
- The Odin has excellent depth to its staging but only average height and width
- The Solaris has much better overall staging - it’s much wider and much more spacious. Few, if any, IEMs can be beat the “holographic” quality of its soundstage
- The Solaris is faster, I think
Overall, I’d call the Odin more engaging, euphonic, and enjoyable in a warm, immersive way, especially because it sucks you into the details. You can really get lost and absorbed in the music. The Solaris, on the other hand, is much more exciting, dynamic, spacious, and energetic. It makes for a more exhilarating, fun listen. I suspect they’d complement one another nicely.
If treble extension and sparkle are priorities, I’d favor the Solaris. If bass quality and quantity are priorities, I’d go for the Odin. The Odin has perhaps the best bass I’ve heard from a pair of IEMs (I’ve not heard the Legend X or EVO).
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Yes, I forgot to mention but you did already. The Solaris’ (original version) unique attribute was its staging capabilities which was really good. Holographic!
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I don’t understand what a lot of that stuff means… as far as technical performance in pretty much every area: resolution, imaging, depth, texture, dynamics, etc.
Like ok Dynamics means the softer and louder parts of music.
So that makes sense.
I know what sound signatures I like.
I like midst but that extra slam a lot.
Not slam as in atlas slam, that’s a bit overkill.
But Base like Solaris or the Vega.
Are the mids on the Odin more like the Focal Stellia or more like the Audeze?
I tried the Meze Audio Elite but found them to not have enough mids for my liking.
I’d say in order of mids and highs, the first of my choices that I’ve heard would be the Audeze LCD5.
The next on the list would b be the Focal Stellia. Third on the list would be the Solaris.
Would anyone be able to tell me which of these headphones the Odin sounds closest too?
Also, they seem easy to drive… hat’s true right?
I’ve found for my hearing impairment, I need very easy to drive IEMs and the Campfire stuff works great, as does the Sure SE-846.
I can drive the Focal enough with my phone or the Dragonfly Cobalt but the Campfire is better.
Will the Odin be easy to drive from portable devices like the campfire?
Thanks,
John
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Thanks,
John
Which between the Solaris has more in the way of mids or vocals enhanced?
TO me it would seem that the Odin would.
I’m leaning more toward the Odin as I continue to read the responses to my query.
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Yes, mids are richer, more enhanced on the Odin, vocals are more forward. The Solaris sounds lighter and thinner.
As @antdroid notes, the Odin is also far superior when it comes to technical performance.
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Hi @JH_Radio. I have been a long time owner an lover of the SE846’s and they really are a great listen. But they have been surpassed in recent years by many new iem’s. I’ve owned quite a lot of higher end Iem’s and the Empire Ears Odin is my current goto daily. If you were to listen to the Shure and then the Odin then you would be shocked at the difference in sound quality. In every way in my opinion the Odin is streets ahead. I don’t really talk in technical terms much as I just prefer to keep it simple. The biggest thing about the Odin you will notice is the amount of detail. You can simply hear things that just don’t appear with the 846’s. Sorry for not going into great detail but it’s early for me and just thought I’d keep it basic. Good luck @JH_Radio.
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How would you say the Odin compares the the Anole VX you had a long while ago? Is the Odin the “best” (obviously thats difficult to qualify) IEM you’ve heard so far?
Having owned both but not at same time, take with a grain of salt. I got the VX after owning the Solaris and it wowed me instantly because of its high quality resolution and distinct transient speed along with a very favorable sound for music I like. Very few iems wowd me since then the way vx did including many of the other ones on the totl range which I think are equal to or better than VX… Say my favorite viento or the u12t or even the mest.
When I first demod the Odin, it had a lot of hype. All my fav reviewers and people I trust who had heard a lot more gear than I did spoke very highly of Odin and they all had varying tastes. So it came with a lot of hype and expectations and it still wow’d me.
The only other wow from iems I get are typically negative. Hehe. 
Odin is really solid and I’m surprised like many who have seen the FR that I like it as much as I do. Its one of the best examples of why FR helps but does not tell the whole story. If I looked at just the graph, I may not have considered it but it does so many things so well that I don’t care that it isn’t my ideal tonality.
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very cool dude, thanks for sharing your thoughts 
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