ZMF Headphones - Official Thread

A consistent point in conversations here & on other headphone boards concerns the soul/musicality/emotional “rightness” some headphones have, and others don’t. What exactly is that quality? (I’m not sure, but know it when I hear it/feel it).

Rather than look at ZMF through the lens of production times, unit costs, profit margins, other standard business metrics, I tend to look at them in terms of their “hit rate,” the proportion of their headphones that nail the soulful, organic, musical sound thing. Of all the ZMF headphones I’ve heard IMS or at shows, and either own or once owned, these are the ones that tick that soulful, musical box for me:

– Eikon (owned)
– Ori (own)
– Aeolus (own)
– Verite Open (own)
– Verite Closed (loaner IMS for ~2 weeks)

Of the rest, I owned an Atticus but couldn’t get it to sound good on any of my amps; heard the Aeolus a number of times but find it a touch sharp in the upper mids (I might have been listening w/the wrong earpads, though); and never managed to hear the Vibro, Blackwood, or ZMF Classic.

(am I missing any?)

Doing the math, that’s 5 out of 10 ZMF headphones that really nail the sound of music; that have the natural warmth, bass weight and resonance I hear in music performed IRL spaces. That’s a hit rate of 50%…which would probably be even higher if I’d managed to hear the Vibro & Blackwood.

That rate of success is nuts, off the charts–well beyond other headphone manufacturers.

Am I being subjective? Obviously. Would some feel that other manufacturers hit their sonic sweet spot often? Of course.

All I can say is this: in all the years/decades of my audio obsession (headphones being a relatively recent thing for me), I learned it’s rare to encounter a pair of speakers, an amp, a preamp, or whatever that can really communicate the spirit and feeling of music to the listener.

This means for me that ZMF is the one to watch. I can’t wait to see what else Zach & Bevin come up with in the future.

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Thanks @Pharamaboy - we will always do our best!!! It’s all about subjectivity in the end, but knowing where subjectivity ends and objectivity starts for each of us is…well…subjective!

As an aside - here’s some obscenely fancy Resin Stabilized that will be part of this saturdays drop, all high gloss - we will have this page up later today. All the VC are done. and we will be adding more VO soon.





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This is such a good point, and spoken like a true artist! I can’t imagine if someone like Beethoven or Joan Baez or Tom Waits tried to convince the world that their music was “best.” It was just them! I guess Wagner kind of tried that, but lost all sense of humanity as a result :rofl:

Very grateful for your journey!

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Wow those resin cups are amazing! I like them because they keep part of the organic wood look vs the stabilized which mask most of the natural wood totally. Both are amazing but these seem to allow both natural and unnatural to really shine and I’m hooked for sure. I’ll probably wait a few years though as it’s gonna be a shark frenzy in the water with a few drops of blood thrown in the pool haha. Good luck for anybody going for one of these. Start stretching your fingers now!

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The VC page is up for Resin, we will have the VO page up soon: https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/stock-headphones/products/verite-resin-closed-stabilized-release1

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Zach’s responses and perspective reinforce why I’ve selected ZMF in my audio journey and want them to continue to succeed.

This is pretty genius, and not just for headphones and audio.

It would be interesting to see a survey of what are the more common collections. It reminds me of putting together a set of golf clubs.

I agree with everything that you said, except for the majority of it, which is about golf, the dumbest way to ruin a walk in nature man has invented.

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Zach, the new stabilized woods are amazing looking!

In regards to molding plastics vs wood. I do agree with Zach. The cost of even simple injection molding can be super super expensive for start up costs. I’m talking up to and in the hundred thousands of dollars range for tooling costs (depending on tolerances, complexities and requirements of course). You have to make enough quantity to make it worth it in the end. If you don’t make it in larger quantities, then the cost goes up. That’s why even on some low scale projects, it actually may be cheaper to use more expensive materials because milling and hogging out metal or (wood in this case) could end up less than plastics., though there may be more touch time needed.

(Also, my soap box being a M&P engineer – not all plastics are cheap. Some are super, super, expensive…)

Anyway, I am looking forward to checking out the November pages… If anything for the eye candy alone.

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But how good is the sound of your clubs…?

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Forged irons do have a certain timbre off the face compared to cast!

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How does he know???
Evil bastards! :grinning:
How does Zach time this?!?
How does he know?!?
The business I manage has had record months, quarters, and a year. Employee moral is just sooo good right now. Sales are up, expenses if not down are at least semi controlled and profits, well, they’re profitable. I met with the owner today. I’m getting a nice raise and a nice bonus.
And then.
Zach posts the above pictures.
How does he know?
Those VO’s are making my teeth chatter.
How does he know

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"This Mizuno forged iron rings like a church bell.

C’est magnifique!"

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I assume you’re referring to Ping?!

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What a great post @zach915m. You are the most active of all headphone manufacturers in this forum and it really shows that you care deeply about your products. I know that you are greatly respected by all and have many followers. Thanks for you great input as I really enjoy reading about all your headphones.

(All this is my own personal opinion.)

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It comes down to what sounds best to ours ears, and that comes down to what has the best synergy with our current gear. I have found I prefer my VC and Atticus on different systems and love them equally. However if I only had one amp, I would probably only prefer one or the other. Synergy is everything, and I can get both my Atticus and VC sounding incredible by optimizing each of their systems. So, perhaps your system is just better tuned for the Auteur, and that’s why you favor it over the VC. I think the VC have the potential to scale a bit more than the Auteur, but either way you might just prefer one or the other regardless and it’s sure nice to have options.

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Ironically, the tubes I’m currently using are my favorites for the VC. I did all my tube-rolling with the VC as my main headphone before I even bought the Auteur. The only variable is my first VC was Manchurian Ash and my new VC is Olive. I believe the Olive is a much denser wood than the Ash. I don’t think that makes a huge difference to the sound, but it might be just enough to push my preferences to the Auteur.

I’ll do some more pad/tube-rolling to see what combo works best for my new VC. Both headphones sound great, I just might end up selling the VC if I can’t get it to a level where it outperforms the Auteur to my ears. The benefit would be $$$ back in the ol’ PayPal account for the next purchase!

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I’m still breaking in my VC Olive and the experience is promising. That said, my Auteurs will be with me forever.

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Breaking in my own VC Olives - gorgeous.

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Lots of Olive owners here! I love the look of mine, I just need to experiment with tubes and pads to see what combo I like the most.

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Gorgeous photos as always… dang

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