Schiit Audio - Lyr 3 - Official Thread

Haha, thanks! My wife told me she hated my first picture and said it was much too dark, but I was about to go to sleep and was too lazy to get up and edit it.

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I’ve been editing tons of photos. This summer I spent a lot of time outdoors taking photos away from other people and learning RAW. So, I learned how to use the software that came with my Mac (after having just pressed the lame auto-correct function for years). And then…you gave me an opportunity…

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I’m glad you did that, because I didn’t realize how easy it was to lighten a dark photo, even in Windows.

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This close up shot looks so cool!
All this tech inside the glas and all these reflexions!

Really like how you got the light from the side and the cut outs are lit from bright to dark!

Also the background works so well.

So much for the eyes to travel around and find new things, in a “simple” macro.

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I just EDITED @PaisleyUnderground’s original shortly above. That version was quite dark, but I’ve found ways to find a lot of detail in dark and underexposed photos. In contrast, overexposed photos tend to be flat and have less room for fixing.

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Oh yes. Sorry! I did not scroll up.

Yes editing in RAW/dng/etc is so beneficial.

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It’s amazing how much detail can be brought out in a dark photo, and easily done without professional software or RAW. I was able to get my original jpg close to @generic’s in less than a minute just using the regular Windows Photos app.

BTW, the light from the side was a flashlight shone through a dirty T shirt that I found in the laundry basket, to try to get some diffuse light.

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I used ONE master overall lightness slider in the Mac Photos app plus a few more tweaks here and there. A minute or less indeed. This would have been impossible or a $$$$ PhotoShop tool not that long ago.

Settings for “HDR” High Dynamic Range effects can easily be produced to transform lightness and dark. Bring up the shadows, bring down the highlights, adjust the baselines and definitions of all sorts of things. Slide and watch.

However, be absolutely sure to have your monitor set on a bright/white neutral color temperature before starting. Otherwise everything will look weird on other systems.

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this is fun - changing the source of light, is one of the best parts in photography - for me

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I have a new Lyr3 and I’m almost certain I just had the same issue. I can reproduce the same cut out and 15 second pause with the “Call You Mine” by the Chainsmokers at 1:18. Happens consistently. It will also happen on Takeaway from the same album. I’ll let the amp burn in for a while and see if it goes away like yours did. Good to know I’m not the only one!

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Contact Schiit with this issue…they wont know if you dont contact them…

My Lyr 3 is a few months old and never experienced this anomoly??

Alex

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I’ll let them know and as Audio_Prom mentions is very song specific. 99.9% of my listening thus far has be great. It’s likely that you just haven’t played a song that would trigger it. I can repro it at the same point of the same song consistently so far.

I should say as well that I’m loving my new set up. Bifrost 2 DAC feeding the Lyr3/CV181-T tube outputting to Meze Empyreans. The Empyreans treble was just a bit recessed to my ears but this tube has given me the sound I was looking for!

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Nice looking tube. That oversized base should fit nicely in the Lyr3. And your sound will probably get better and better for the next 50 hours or so.

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I know this is an old posts but just a quick question for you:

Did you pick up any hum with your tube amps, in particular the OG Lyr vs. the Lyr 3?

Just picked up a fairly cheap original Lyr and curious if hum just comes with the territory. The stock tubes were old and had crazy hum; it’s quieted down since replacing them with new tubes but I’ll still pick up that background hum in quiet passages or with nothing playing. Just curious if the later revisions had any hum comparatively. Maybe the gain switch helps? Kinda wondering if I made a mistake here as with my Clears the hum is a bit too noticable; it’s less so with my higher impedance cans but still not completely silent for sure. Any input on experiences here is appreciated!

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I haven’t heard the first version of the Lyr so I can’t answer your question directly but this introductory post by Jason Stoddard to the Lyr 3 may help you, if only because he points out that

“We basically took the Lyr and Lyr 2 design and nuked them from orbit. Not a single shred of the original Lyr remains. Dynamically adaptive output stage? Nope. Two noval triodes? Nope. A single-purpose headphone amp? Nope. A U-shaped chassis? Nope. Gone, gone, gone, and gone.”

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Thanks for that. I wonder what was wrong with the design that made them completely change it though…

Still hoping some have compared both directly to see what the difference is. But I suppose I can ultimately look into other amps for tube goodness with little to no background noise, even with sensitive headphones…

My Lyr3 has no hum with my Stellia. It’s completely silent.

The only time I had hum was when I tried listening to an IEM.

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I don’t hear a hum either (Focal Clear, Lawton modded Fostex).

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Thanks for the responses. Do you typically use low gain for the most part?

I probably should have sprung for the Lyr 2 at least, of course one hadn’t come up for sale for months, until right after I already got my Lyr 1. That one was a fair bit more than I paid which seemed like a bit of stretch just to try one out; but as it turns out it had a few sets of NOS tubes included which for sure cost more than the difference…

Ultimately Lyr 3 probably would have been ideal, just no one tends to sell theirs used, too many happy campers I guess! The single tube is pretty convenient and it sounds like they did a good job on the redesign while retaining all that power. They are a bit pricey to bring into Canada new though so I tend to wait for someone else to take the hit.

Still, so far besides the the little bit of hum and occasionally some weird tubey idiosyncrasies, the Lyr 1 is nice with my high impedance sets. Just a bit too hummey with the higher sensitivity ones. Still has been a good way to dip my toes into tube hybrids anyway. Someday I’ll trade up hopefully!

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Schiit Audio is unconventional in several ways and is uncommonly forthcoming about what gets changed in new versions of amps and DACs. This transparency extends to identifying the limitations of previous models once new designs supersede them. I suspect Schiit can be so open and matter of fact about its products because the company genuinely does innovate, as is shown with the “Coherence™ hybrid topology” introduced into the later versions of the Lyr 3, to give one of several possible examples from the current product line.

The point here, then, is that there may not be anything inherently wrong with the latest edition of a DAC or amp, especially given the price of the product and the limits of what can be accomplished given the technological and engineering constraints. There are many examples of older products, by Schiit and other companies), that still sound great even if newer versions have replaced them (e.g. Campfire Audio Solaris or Andromeda IEMs).

Having said all this, I do recognize that there does appear to be something wrong with your original Lyr, and I’m sorry to hear that. I lack the knowledge to be able to determine if it is a problem with the original product or whether something has gone wrong with it. Could it be the tube? Have you checked the forums to see if others noticed a hum in their units back in the day?

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