The important thing is that the quartz on be harvested under the light of a full moon
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Wouldn’t that add too much brightness?
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It properly aligns the molecules
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reminds me of tin foil on the rabbit ears when your trying to get a station tuned in on a tv. That’s been a couple years ago…
Is it odd that I can identify a can by headband alone?
Enjoy!
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Is it odd that I can identify a can by headband alone?
Yes, yes it is
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Oh come on. I was driving down a road in Montana at speeds exceeding 70 when my old man yelled stop.
We hiked a good 700 yards into a field, picked a piece of chrome off a rusted hunk of American steel, walked to the house, gave the nice family $40, and hit the road.
That headband is distinctive, and sitting still!
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Elac is pretty decent, but I do not like the debut series. The original uni-fi is better than it.
I got the 2.0’s and just recently got a killer deal on the Elac Adantes. Those were the speakers I really wanted rather than the 2.0’s. But wasn’t willing to pay for something I couldn’t afford plus a more beast amp.
But from the time I demo’d them until now I wanted it. At 5,000 a pair they better sound nice😂 Not setup yet unfortunately, going to switch to my larger room for these 100 lb behemoths
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This purchase followed my curiosity regarding the Elac Worldwide Hype Train of 2016 to 2017, and when the first generation Debut was often billed as a giant killer on steroids.
From Herb Reichert in hype master Stereophile (2016, link above):
$279.99? “For the price”? Are you kidding me?? Screw everybody!
These almost-free little boxes were sounding like the first loudspeakers to break the $1 million price point. Maybe I’d forgotten to take my meds? I needed to calm down and play “Will the Circle Be Unbroken” one more time—just to make sure I wasn’t hallucinating.
I’m personally using these to explore the benefits of upstream improvements, per the “start with the source” strategy. The Bifrost 2 kicks most everything into a higher gear – including these guys. The Schiit Loki helps fix tonal issues too. I’d upgrade my amp before swapping these speakers, as they are intended for atmospherics rather than critical listening.
These never out of the box second generation Debuts were $160 versus a typical street price of $250, yes, a consumer grade mass-market product. They are mid-focused, have okay imaging, go deep for their size, are a bit boomy, and don’t have great treble definition, but crowd pleasing and easy on the ears. Front-facing vents facilitate flexible room placement. They are well rounded overall.
I completely understand, not saying you made a bad decision. Second, my decisions and lack of knowledge led me to where I am. I went to a local audio shop to see if I wanted the Unifi v1 and they demo’d it. Liked it. They say debut is good, listened to both side by side. Kinda A/B comparison. Then they said they had the adantes, they hooked those up.
I believe if you had the opportunity to test them, and as a seasoned audiophile, you may have came the same conclusion. Hearing is believing. But you had to basically purchase to demo.
If I were to sum it, in an exaggerated fashion, the debut is like the Beats by Dre of headphones. I’m certain the mass market loves it.
Also I realize you can’t take your setup to an audio to run your test setup.
I had no interest in the debut, but you know the audio store was trying to get a sale. But I said hey why not, let me hear them maybe I would like it and save myself some money.
Now off the topic, yet the same principle.
Everyone kinda of has their thing. I honestly didn’t even like the Revel 238 Be which is a 10k speaker. I went in to see those cause I found them for almost half the price.
It checked a lot of the boxes the debut didn’t obviously, but had some of the things I didn’t like about the debut. So it’s strange what characteristics a speaker has and doesn’t have. There’s always that one thing that makes you go no.
It’s way out of league, but I am in the rabbit hole and unfortunately I am liking stereo listening much better. Those really crazy deals get us pumped, or at least me 
This being a different audio shop showed me Magiko, those speakers are BAD ass. Exactly what I want to hear. The bookshelf and A3, a 13,000 dollar speaker though.
Listening is believing. But the point is people love those revels. Regarding herb who knows…maybe that’s the case. But I would kind of doubt it from someone who has heard so many speakers.
But I would definitely say my next pair of speakers, now that I got what I really wanted[Adantes], it should stop the itch. Will be Magiko unless something else at that price range blows me away way. Which at 13k or even discounted won’t be any time soon.
Also I feel like speakers are way more complicated vs headphones.
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Certainly not mine. The first generation had a bass port on the rear and was known for booming badly when placed near a wall. Its performance (and mine) also changed per upstream components.
Mine are closer to consumer grade Sony or Bose. They do best in the mids, are neutral overall, but sometimes resonate with lower notes. This issue affects many ported speakers. However, I hear no chuffing.
The first generation Debut was replaced after 2 years with a front port model, despite receiving massive praise…hmmm…
Did they do any standard retail tricks such as using different DACs, different amps, or placing the cheaper speakers poorly? Never assume that your experience will match a demo room. Retail sales is a show and a theme park ride. You are sometimes directed to hear what they want you to hear.
Last year I demoed a $600K Wilson setup. It was huge in every way and sounded fine, but likely not better in a blind test than a carefully planned $15K to $50K setup. The store owner said full height Wilson stacks are tricky to configure, as they require extreme care in room treatment, matching driver angles, and matching output levels of many drivers.
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Probably the resonance I don’t like, not sure what terminology to use. You know everyone wants to put those speakers against the wall.
I mentioned earlier I got a pair of speakers in my living room and they are cheap, but honestly pulled out into the room significantly and they sound really good.
I did the same in my room, but it’s too small. I’m 2 and half feet away from the side walls and 3 ft from the back wall. Yet I am getting much more in my living room and I feel it’s making a substantial improvement.
Nope, the unifi were discontinued and the towers were 600. They were selling the debut for 500. All they did is switch speaker cables. But everything was McIntosh, so probably at least 7k of input feeding them. Probably more if they were mono blocks.
Also they put me in a room with no treatment or anything yet it was large probably 25 by 40 feet, not sure if a room that large would benefit from treatment as they definitely had high end equipment in there. Not sure if a pretreated wall exists lol
Wilson audio is definitely up there, but like you mentioned the returns don’t ad up. It becomes art and sound and prestige like owning a Ferrari incorporated into that price.
I watch the video on Magiko assembly and the A3 takes 8 hours per speaker. They too have speakers that are in 6 figures, and their cheapest speaker the A3 came out at 10 11k as a mainstream “affordable” unit. In 2020 or just recently jumped to 13.
They contain a mixture of black and white powders
Probably NaCl and an organic substance, Piper nigrum ground to approximately the same size. These substances are known to be a magic combination in multiple situations. A bargain at half the price.
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I wish I had taken a picture before removing these from the packaging. I bought these from a Head-fier in Russia on March 17th and they finally arrived today!
Definitely worth the wait!
I had to laugh at the Great Value bags that the cables came in. Glad to know the Walton’s maintain a presence in Mother Russia.
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@perogie - it’s a pretty iconic headband though.
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Amen! Those seem like a total waste of money to me, and look hideous as well.
I coincidentally did a deep YouTube dive into the Wilson Chronosonic XvX’s this weekend — mostly out of masochistic curiosity — and those things are insane: 670 pounds each; $330,000 per pair. That’s what I paid for my house 20 years ago! I want to take my poor self to a Wilson dealer and hear them before I croke.
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That’s insane. I’ve listened to a couple of $100K dealer demo rigs, but $330K for speakers. Wow.
Bucket list trip for you.
I don’t think my hearing would be good enough to reap the benefits.
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